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Let's see here. Tesla was the first profitable electric car company. It is still profitable. Space X is also profitable and growing quickly. Boring company is

Let's see here. Tesla was the first profitable electric car company. It is still profitable. Space X is also profitable and growing quickly. Boring company is doing surprisingly well having done the loop in Las Vegas and now doing a big one in Tenn. Neuralink has 9 working patients at this point who have been helped tremendously. xAi has the premier model for deep though. So "failing to produce exceptional results" doesn't seem to add up. They are smart about shutting down things that won't work. That is smart

zaphirplane 1y ago
> xAi has the premier model for deep though. When was that consensus reached
- AtlasBarfed 1y ago
  On the bot infested subreddit for xAI I do have confidence that xai will be the premier hype generation AI platform
lavios 1y ago
Boring company's las vegas tunnel is horrible. It's a one-way tunnel that barely provides transit to anybody. [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPjODKUxV5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPjODKUxV5g
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  Vegas Loop has transported over 2 million riders (barely anybody apparently) https://thebulkheadseat.com/the-las-vegas-loop-just-surpassed-two-million-passenger-rides-given/ https://thebulkheadseat.com/the-las-vegas-loop-just-surpasse...
  - asdffdasy 1y ago
    thats like one bus route number of passangers. and most of those were doing the literal loop just for the novelty.
    - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
      They are doing 30k passengers a day, not just for the novelty. A bus line will do between 5k and 20k passengers a day, and that is with many, expensive busses that have to wait in traffic. The loop has basically no traffic, and carries a lot of customers and costs a small fraction of what a subway does. A subway mile can cost a billion per mile. This cost 50 million for 1.7 miles. It's a huge win for people who don't want to walk that distance and for the city streets have which have less traffic.
      - Zigurd 1y ago
        The math ain't mathing. If they are doing 20 rides per hour per segment, assuming 100% load factor and 24 hour service, which it isn't, that's 480 rides per day, per segment. In reality, probably half that or less. If there were five separate segments, with the above parameters, that would be 2500 rides per day. Let's further assume two passengers per ride that's 5000 passengers, maxed out all day and all night. Is there a Vegas betting book on this? What's the over under?
        DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        The math isn't matching. That's true. Where are you getting 20 riders and hour? That's ridiculously low
Zigurd 1y ago
Neuralink's first patient was turned into a kind of Cronenberg-esque horror. xAI claims to have a first-tier AI but has no revenue, not that anyone else has enough revenue to make back the over-investment. National security launches are probably cash flow positive on an individual launch basis. But Starship has been a predictable disaster. It's not plausible that SpaceX as a whole is profitable and evidence for that is in that they require big new investments every year. Tesla is a particularly tragic story. The vertical integration they had to do because of unavailability of suitable suppliers and car industry corruption and supply chain cartels is an under-appreciated success. Throwing that and all the other goodwill away by going mask off fascist is an amazing act of brand destruction.
- DoesntMatter22 1y ago
  The first patient is now using it nearly 10 hours a day and says that Neurolink has changed his life and is now able to do things he could only imagine doing before. https://x.com/ModdedQuad/status/1953274433025786031 https://x.com/ModdedQuad/status/1953274433025786031 You don't know what sort of revenue xAI has because it's not public. Starship is the largest, highest capacity reusable rocket in history, something which no government or company has even attempted. Predictably of course it will take time to get it right. Do you know how many Rockets the US blew up before it got things working? Most, if not all SpaceX launches are likely profitable, as they are now putting up most of the world's payloads. Starlink is now profitable as well. It's unlikely they are losing money outside of Starship, but that's how companies work, they invest in the future. Tesla hasn't been hurt nearly as much as you think. They still have the #1 and #2 best selling cars in Euro pe. https://cleantechnica.com/2025/08/02/europe-ev-sales-report-tesla-has-1-plus-2-win-in-a-29-ev-share-market/ https://cleantechnica.com/2025/08/02/europe-ev-sales-report-...

zaphirplane 1y ago

> xAi has the premier model for deep though. When was that consensus reached

AtlasBarfed 1y ago
On the bot infested subreddit for xAI I do have confidence that xai will be the premier hype generation AI platform

lavios 1y ago

Boring company's las vegas tunnel is horrible. It's a one-way tunnel that barely provides transit to anybody. [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPjODKUxV5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPjODKUxV5g

DoesntMatter22 1y ago
Vegas Loop has transported over 2 million riders (barely anybody apparently) https://thebulkheadseat.com/the-las-vegas-loop-just-surpassed-two-million-passenger-rides-given/ https://thebulkheadseat.com/the-las-vegas-loop-just-surpasse...
- asdffdasy 1y ago
  thats like one bus route number of passangers. and most of those were doing the literal loop just for the novelty.
  - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
    They are doing 30k passengers a day, not just for the novelty. A bus line will do between 5k and 20k passengers a day, and that is with many, expensive busses that have to wait in traffic. The loop has basically no traffic, and carries a lot of customers and costs a small fraction of what a subway does. A subway mile can cost a billion per mile. This cost 50 million for 1.7 miles. It's a huge win for people who don't want to walk that distance and for the city streets have which have less traffic.
    - Zigurd 1y ago
      The math ain't mathing. If they are doing 20 rides per hour per segment, assuming 100% load factor and 24 hour service, which it isn't, that's 480 rides per day, per segment. In reality, probably half that or less. If there were five separate segments, with the above parameters, that would be 2500 rides per day. Let's further assume two passengers per ride that's 5000 passengers, maxed out all day and all night. Is there a Vegas betting book on this? What's the over under?
      - DoesntMatter22 1y ago
        The math isn't matching. That's true. Where are you getting 20 riders and hour? That's ridiculously low

Zigurd 1y ago

Neuralink's first patient was turned into a kind of Cronenberg-esque horror. xAI claims to have a first-tier AI but has no revenue, not that anyone else has enough revenue to make back the over-investment. National security launches are probably cash flow positive on an individual launch basis. But Starship has been a predictable disaster. It's not plausible that SpaceX as a whole is profitable and evidence for that is in that they require big new investments every year. Tesla is a particularly tragic story. The vertical integration they had to do because of unavailability of suitable suppliers and car industry corruption and supply chain cartels is an under-appreciated success. Throwing that and all the other goodwill away by going mask off fascist is an amazing act of brand destruction.

DoesntMatter22 1y ago
The first patient is now using it nearly 10 hours a day and says that Neurolink has changed his life and is now able to do things he could only imagine doing before. https://x.com/ModdedQuad/status/1953274433025786031 https://x.com/ModdedQuad/status/1953274433025786031 You don't know what sort of revenue xAI has because it's not public. Starship is the largest, highest capacity reusable rocket in history, something which no government or company has even attempted. Predictably of course it will take time to get it right. Do you know how many Rockets the US blew up before it got things working? Most, if not all SpaceX launches are likely profitable, as they are now putting up most of the world's payloads. Starlink is now profitable as well. It's unlikely they are losing money outside of Starship, but that's how companies work, they invest in the future. Tesla hasn't been hurt nearly as much as you think. They still have the #1 and #2 best selling cars in Euro pe. https://cleantechnica.com/2025/08/02/europe-ev-sales-report-tesla-has-1-plus-2-win-in-a-29-ev-share-market/ https://cleantechnica.com/2025/08/02/europe-ev-sales-report-...