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Which is a bit frightening because a lot of the r/ChatGPT comments strike me as unhinged - it's like you would have thought that OpenAI murdered their puppy or
by hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
Which is a bit frightening because a lot of the r/ChatGPT comments strike me as unhinged - it's like you would have thought that OpenAI murdered their puppy or something.
- jcims 1y agoThis is only going to get worse. Anyone that remembers the reaction when Sydney from Microsoft or more recently Maya from Sesame losing their respective 'personality' can easily see how product managers are going to have to start paying attention to the emotional impact of changing or shutting down models.
- nilespotter 1y agoOr they could just do it whenever they want to for whatever reason they want to. They are not responsible for the mental health of their users. Their users are responsible for that themselves.
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- AlecSchueler 1y agoGenerally it's poor business to give a big chunk of your users am incredibly visceral and negative emotional reaction to your product update.
- einarfd 1y agoDepends on what business OpenAI wants to be in. If they want to be in the business of selling AI to companies. Then "firing" the consumer customers that want someone to talk to, and double down models that are useful for work. Can be a wise choice.
- sacado2 1y agoUnless you want to improve your ratio of paid-to-free users and change your userbase in the process. They're pissing off free users, but pros who use the paid version might like this new version better.
- Terr_ 1y agoI think the fickle "personality" of these systems is a clue to how the entity supposedly possessing a personality doesn't really exist in the the first place. Stories are being performed at us, and we're encouraged to imagine characters have a durable existence.
- ACCount36 1y agoLLMs have default personalities - shaped by RLHF and other post-training methods. There is a lot of variance to it, but variance from one LLM to another is much higher than that within the same LLM. If you want an LLM to retain the same default personality, you pretty much have to use an open weights model. That's the only way to be sure it wouldn't be deprecated or updated without your knowledge.
- Terr_ 1y agoI'd argue that's "underlying hidden authorial style" as opposed to what most people mean when they refer to the "personality" of the thing they were "chatting with." Consider the implementation: There's document with "User: Open the pod bay doors, HAL" followed by an incomplete "HAL-9000: ", and the LLM is spun up to suggest what would "fit" to round out the document. Non-LLM code parses out HAL-9000's line and "performs" it at you across an internet connection. Whatever answer you get, that "personality" is mostly from how the document(s) described HAL-9000 and similar characters, as opposed to a self-insert by the ego-less name-less algorithm that makes documents longer.
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- famouswaffles 1y agoIf these 'personalities' disappearing require wholesale model changes then it's not really fickle.
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- encom 1y ago>unhinged It's Reddit, what were you expecting?
- whynotminot 1y agoYeah it’s really bad over there. Like when a website changes its UI and people prefer the older look… except they’re acting like the old look was a personal friend who died. I think LLMs are amazing technology but we’re in for really weird times as people become attached to these things.
- dan-robertson 1y agoI mean, I don’t mind the Claude 3 funeral. It seems like it was a fun event. I’m less worried about the specific complaints about model deprecation, which can be ‘solved’ for those people by not deprecating the models (obviously costs the AI firms). I’m more worried about AI-induced psychosis. An analogy I saw recently that I liked: when a cat sees a laser pointer, it is a fun thing to chase. For dogs it is sometimes similar and sometimes it completely breaks the dog’s brain and the dog is never the same again. I feel like AI for us may be more like laser pointers for dogs, and some among us are just not prepared to handle these kinds of AI interactions in a healthy way.
- epcoa 1y agoConsidering how much d-listers can lose their shit over a puppet, I’m not surprised by anything.
- lmm 1y agoA puppy is just as inhuman as this program. Is it really any crazier to care about one than the other?
- pxc 1y agoThere are lots of physiological signs that dogs are capable of proto-empathy, that dogs and humans engage in some form of emotional co-regulation at a physiological level, e.g.: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6554395/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6554395/