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If I could wager a guess, it sounds like the startup was in the business of scraping Amazon.

neilv 1y ago
No. And when people share info on HN, I don't like to see speculation in the comments about things they obviously intentionally didn't say (assuming that they seem to be speaking in good faith). That person, and other people who see the dynamic, presumably are less likely to share in the future.
- keysdev 1y ago
  Thank you for pointing that out. Really appreciate you sharing. To the parent, please do not try to lure info out of people it is just not cool online or in real life when people obviously are being generic for a reason.
- ribosometronome 1y ago
  I feel there is a level of irony in you being bothered about people interacting with content you've shared in a way you don't like when said content is a story about you interacting with other's content in a way they've explicitly put up barriers to try and stop you from doing that.
  - neilv 1y ago
    Who said the site put up barriers? I think you have a valid general question (and you'll note I said "appropriate kind, IMHO" at the top of the original comment, acknowledging others might disagree that it was appropriate), but I'd like to contrast two distinct situations: * A collegial forum, where people might go to share information, sometimes with discretion about what can and can't be said (or just comfort levels). * A large corporation that was profiting off of illegal businesses (e.g., contract-violating, IP-violating, defrauding buyers, possibly fencing), and we wanted to gather evidence of that on behalf of some of the harmed parties, to try to stop it. And we did that in a technologically gentle, non-disruptive way. And (as I mentioned in the original comment) we had a conscious policy to immediately cease if we were ever told to.
- amarcheschi 1y ago
  Did you know if you violated any ToS with your software? If yes, why did you feel compelled to continue?
  - neilv 1y ago
    No.
    - amarcheschi 1y ago
      Ok, with the phrasing used it looked much more sus than it is then :)
  - immibis 1y ago
    I am not a lawyer but you should know that in most/many/all cases, website ToS have no legal effect whatsoever. They amount to the same thing as stating "we don't like if you do X and we'll probably ban you" but written in legalese so people take it more seriously. Get the advice of an actual lawyer before relying on this of course.
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- op00to 1y ago
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vhcr 1y ago
You won't be able to scrape Amazon using Tor.

No. And when people share info on HN, I don't like to see speculation in the comments about things they obviously intentionally didn't say (assuming that they seem to be speaking in good faith). That person, and other people who see the dynamic, presumably are less likely to share in the future.

keysdev 1y ago
Thank you for pointing that out. Really appreciate you sharing. To the parent, please do not try to lure info out of people it is just not cool online or in real life when people obviously are being generic for a reason.
ribosometronome 1y ago
I feel there is a level of irony in you being bothered about people interacting with content you've shared in a way you don't like when said content is a story about you interacting with other's content in a way they've explicitly put up barriers to try and stop you from doing that.
- neilv 1y ago
  Who said the site put up barriers? I think you have a valid general question (and you'll note I said "appropriate kind, IMHO" at the top of the original comment, acknowledging others might disagree that it was appropriate), but I'd like to contrast two distinct situations: * A collegial forum, where people might go to share information, sometimes with discretion about what can and can't be said (or just comfort levels). * A large corporation that was profiting off of illegal businesses (e.g., contract-violating, IP-violating, defrauding buyers, possibly fencing), and we wanted to gather evidence of that on behalf of some of the harmed parties, to try to stop it. And we did that in a technologically gentle, non-disruptive way. And (as I mentioned in the original comment) we had a conscious policy to immediately cease if we were ever told to.
amarcheschi 1y ago
Did you know if you violated any ToS with your software? If yes, why did you feel compelled to continue?
- neilv 1y ago
  No.
  - amarcheschi 1y ago
    Ok, with the phrasing used it looked much more sus than it is then :)
- immibis 1y ago
  I am not a lawyer but you should know that in most/many/all cases, website ToS have no legal effect whatsoever. They amount to the same thing as stating "we don't like if you do X and we'll probably ban you" but written in legalese so people take it more seriously. Get the advice of an actual lawyer before relying on this of course.
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op00to 1y ago
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vhcr 1y ago

You won't be able to scrape Amazon using Tor.