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A good employee just calls out bullshit. Imagine being a little corporate sheep not criticizing their own company openly.

by zwnow 1y ago

MonkeyClub 1y ago
> A good employee just calls out bullshit. That's a soon to be ex employee. Personal anecdata from a software team in a non-software company: New project idea comes in. Developer asks for outline of specifications. Management replies with nebulous desires. Developer insists over half a dozen "planning" meetings, where desires are mentioned but requirements not defined, despite all petitions and cajoling. Management fires developer for not being a team player. From what I hear, that project has yet to happen a year after the aforementioned events. And that's without criticizing, only with explaining the value of specifications before developing business critical applications. So, yeah, employers get what they pay for: either sheep or conscientious employees, but can't have both.
- zwnow 1y ago
  Employers want sheeps that's the whole issue.
tinuviel 1y ago
For most people, publicly criticizing your own company shows your disloyalty that could get you fired. Imagine getting fired over things you have little control over when you are responsible for bringing food to your little children and aging parents.
- zwnow 1y ago
  Children is a you problem you take full responsibility for. I won't navigate myself into these kinda issues given I won't force people into a rapidly dying world.
  - unethical_ban 1y ago
    >Children is a you problem you take full responsibility for. Thus why the other person suggests that being rude under the guise of "straight shooter" isn't always worth the risk of losing your income stream for your family.
  - tinuviel 1y ago
    True, but aging parents, disabled siblings, living arrangement with your SO etc - so many personal factors that would precede social responsibility for many. Unless you are a blue haired social activist with parents to bank roll your existence and you having nothing to lose, outrage is a luxury.

A good employee just calls out bullshit. Imagine being a little corporate sheep not criticizing their own company openly.

by zwnow 1y ago

A good employee just calls out bullshit. Imagine being a little corporate sheep not criticizing their own company openly.

MonkeyClub 1y ago

> A good employee just calls out bullshit. That's a soon to be ex employee. Personal anecdata from a software team in a non-software company: New project idea comes in. Developer asks for outline of specifications. Management replies with nebulous desires. Developer insists over half a dozen "planning" meetings, where desires are mentioned but requirements not defined, despite all petitions and cajoling. Management fires developer for not being a team player. From what I hear, that project has yet to happen a year after the aforementioned events. And that's without criticizing, only with explaining the value of specifications before developing business critical applications. So, yeah, employers get what they pay for: either sheep or conscientious employees, but can't have both.

zwnow 1y ago
Employers want sheeps that's the whole issue.

tinuviel 1y ago

For most people, publicly criticizing your own company shows your disloyalty that could get you fired. Imagine getting fired over things you have little control over when you are responsible for bringing food to your little children and aging parents.

zwnow 1y ago
Children is a you problem you take full responsibility for. I won't navigate myself into these kinda issues given I won't force people into a rapidly dying world.
- unethical_ban 1y ago
  >Children is a you problem you take full responsibility for. Thus why the other person suggests that being rude under the guise of "straight shooter" isn't always worth the risk of losing your income stream for your family.
- tinuviel 1y ago
  True, but aging parents, disabled siblings, living arrangement with your SO etc - so many personal factors that would precede social responsibility for many. Unless you are a blue haired social activist with parents to bank roll your existence and you having nothing to lose, outrage is a luxury.