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This seems like fundamentally the information that is being shared is 'this vehicle entered the parking lot'. That information is also accessible by looking at

This seems like fundamentally the information that is being shared is 'this vehicle entered the parking lot'. That information is also accessible by looking at the parking lot with your human eyes. Definitely not a great trend for police to be collecting more surveillance data but it's also not 'social credit score' hysteria worthy.

pstuart 1y ago
If you've seen what ICE has done so far, and the "promises" made by the current regime, it's all valid to worry about unless you fall into the protected class of being a White Multi-Generational-Resident Evangelical Male. That's not hyperbole, that's their goal and they're saying the quiet parts out loud now.
southernplaces7 1y ago
>That information is also accessible by looking at the parking lot with your human eyes. There's a blindingly obvious and enormous difference between some random joe the doughnut-grubbing cop watching a Home Depot parking lot to see if certain cars enter it, and digital license plate surveillance data on all cars entering said lot being constantly mass-sent to some federal or corporate-federal database for correlation with reams of other data shared by these same companies and other sources. Guess where the latter can indeed easily lead? To exactly what you dismiss.
- burnt-resistor 1y ago
  This. After cell phone and internet carriers, retail financial providers, social media, data brokers, and AFRs and ALPRs from retail and commercial security systems will inevitably lead to for-profit intelligence fusion, especially when many $10B's of paramilitary/intelligence budget go shopping.
king_geedorah 1y ago
Why would there be a need or desire to bring such an arrangement to fruition if it was not meaningfully different from somebody watching individual cars/parking lots with their human eyes?
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
If there was a cop at every single parking lot, every single checkout lane, every single on ramp and offramp, watching everyone's front door at all times, it would obviously be a police state

pstuart 1y ago

If you've seen what ICE has done so far, and the "promises" made by the current regime, it's all valid to worry about unless you fall into the protected class of being a White Multi-Generational-Resident Evangelical Male. That's not hyperbole, that's their goal and they're saying the quiet parts out loud now.

southernplaces7 1y ago

>That information is also accessible by looking at the parking lot with your human eyes. There's a blindingly obvious and enormous difference between some random joe the doughnut-grubbing cop watching a Home Depot parking lot to see if certain cars enter it, and digital license plate surveillance data on all cars entering said lot being constantly mass-sent to some federal or corporate-federal database for correlation with reams of other data shared by these same companies and other sources. Guess where the latter can indeed easily lead? To exactly what you dismiss.

burnt-resistor 1y ago
This. After cell phone and internet carriers, retail financial providers, social media, data brokers, and AFRs and ALPRs from retail and commercial security systems will inevitably lead to for-profit intelligence fusion, especially when many $10B's of paramilitary/intelligence budget go shopping.

king_geedorah 1y ago

Why would there be a need or desire to bring such an arrangement to fruition if it was not meaningfully different from somebody watching individual cars/parking lots with their human eyes?

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago

If there was a cop at every single parking lot, every single checkout lane, every single on ramp and offramp, watching everyone's front door at all times, it would obviously be a police state