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> revolutionary breakthroughs in essentially all field This doesn't really make sense outside computers. Since AI would be training itself, it needs to have th
by stoneyhrm1 1y ago
> revolutionary breakthroughs in essentially all field
This doesn't really make sense outside computers. Since AI would be training itself, it needs to have the right answers, but as of now it doesn't really interact with the physical world. The most it could do is write code, and check things that have no room for interpretation, like speed, latency, percentage of errors, exceptions, etc.
But, what other fields would it do this in? How can it makes strives in biology, it can't dissect animals, it can't figure more out about plants that humans feed into the training data. Regarding math, math is human-defined. Humans said "addition does this", "this symbol means that", etc.
I just don't understand how AI could ever surpass anything human known before we live by the rules defined by us.
- nickpinkston 1y ago[in Morpheus voice] "But when AI got finally access to a bank account and LinkedIn, the machines found the only source of hands it would ever need." That's my bet at least - especially with remote work, etc. is that if the machines were really superhuman, they could convince people to partner with it to do anything else.
- Earw0rm 1y agoYou mean like convincing them to invest implausibly huge sums of money in building ever bigger data-centres?
- nickpinkston 1y agoIt is interesting that, even before real AGI/ASI gets here, that "the system wants what it wants", like capitalism + computing/internet creates the conditions for an infinite amplification loop. I am amazed, hopeful, and terrified TBH.
- Earw0rm 1y agoFeedback gain loops have a tendency to continue right up to the point they blow a circuit breaker or otherwise drive their operating substrate beyond linear conditions.
- richardreeze 1y agoThis made me laugh and feel scared simultaneously.
- Earw0rm 1y agoI assume someone has already written it up as a sci-fi short story, but if not I'm tempted to have a go...
- gr3ml1n 1y agoIt starts to veer into sci-fi and I don't personally believe this is practically possible on any relevant timescale, but: The idea is a sufficiently advanced AI could simulate.. everything. You don't need to interact with the physical world if you have a perfect model of it. > But, what other fields would it do this in? How can it makes strives in biology, it can't dissect animals ... It doesn't need to dissect an animal if it has a perfect model of it that it can simulate. All potential genetic variations, all interactions between biological/chemical processes inside it, etc.
- me-vs-cat 1y agoYou're right, but how much heavy lifting is within this phrase? > if it has a perfect model
- tart-lemonade 1y agoIt feels very much like "assume a spherical cow..."
- Vegenoid 1y ago> You don't need to interact with the physical world if you have a perfect model of it. How does it create a perfect model of the world without extensive interaction with the actual world?
- aldousd666 1y agoYou can be super-human intelligent, and still not have a perfect model of the world.
- ileonichwiesz 1y agoIt’s plausible in a sci-fi sort of way, but where does the model come from? After a hundred years of focused study we’re kinda beginning to understand what’s going on inside a fruit fly, how are we going to provide the machine with “a perfect model of all interactions between biological/chemical processes”? If you had that perfect model, you’ve basically solved an entire field of science. There wouldn’t be a lot more to learn by plugging it into a computer afterwards.
- loandbehold 1y agoWe aren't that far away from AI that can interact with physical world and run it's own experiments. Robots in humanoid and other forms are getting good and will be able to do everything humans can do in a few years.