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The messaging is all over the place anyway. Not so long ago OAI was talking about faster iterations and warning people to not expect huge leaps. (A position tha

by Havoc 1y ago

The messaging is all over the place anyway. Not so long ago OAI was talking about faster iterations and warning people to not expect huge leaps. (A position that makes sense imo). Yet people talk about AGI in a serious manner?

throwfaraway4 1y ago
"AGI achieved internally" -- Sam Altman
- infecto 1y ago
  Yes a quote from a meme post on Reddit. No doubt he has been overselling the future for a while but why use a quote with the wrong context?
  - Analemma_ 1y ago
    See the sibling comment from AlexandrB. Altman and tons of other hype men in tech do this thing where they make outrageous promises, then retcon as “just jokes” whichever ones don’t come true, so that they can never be disproven. It’s a swindle made all the more irritating by the enablers like you who go “why did you take the joke seriously?” to get cred on the internet while helping the scam continue. Or to put it another way, do you think Altman denounced all the hype (and subsequent investment dollars) he got because of the “AGI achieved internally” post? Did he say to anyone “hey, that was a meme post, don’t take it seriously”? Or did he milk it for all it was worth before only later quietly climbing down from that when it was no longer paying dividends. Again, duplicitous and disingenuous behavior.
    - infecto 1y ago
      Again, out of all the quotes to call out the weakest one was picked.
      - amanaplanacanal 1y ago
        So you admit he was lying then. If he is a known liar, then we know what to expect, I guess.
        infecto 1y ago
        I am not admitting anything as I don’t have any skin in the game. It’s just a weak hyperbolic quote compared to the PR narrative.
        betaminecraft 1y ago
        [dead]
- nocoiner 1y ago
  “Hidden, poorly internally labeled fiat@ account”
coldpie 1y ago
I don't think anyone serious is talking about AGI from LLMs, no.
- phist_mcgee 1y ago
  And yet altman talks about AGI being imminent, but his company has only ever produced LLMs.
  - parineum 1y ago
    Now why would the CEO of an AI company say something like that!?
    - AstroBen 1y ago
      Is it a given that they need to unrealistically hype everything? To me it just seems like he's killing any and all credibility he had Probably a bad long term strategy? I mean other non-AI companies use hype too sure.. but it's maybe a little sprinkle of 1.1x on top aimed to highlight their best features. Here we're going full on 100x of reality
      - parineum 1y ago
        It's not a given but Altman is a public figure for a reason while I don't know the names of any of the other CEOs off the top of my head. He talks a lot and when he talks, it's about AI. Even talking about the dangers of AI is hype because it implies it's an important topic to discuss now because it's imminent.
      - coldpie 1y ago
        > To me it just seems like he's killing any and all credibility he had. Probably a bad long term strategy? He's already got more money than God and there's an infinite supply of suckers who think wealth and skill/intelligence are correlated for him to keep feeding off of (see also Goop and Tesla, incredibly successful companies also run by wealthy hucksters). Sam Altman will be just fine.
gtirloni 1y ago
> We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it. We believe that, in 2025, we may see the first AI agents "join the workforce" and materially change the output of companies. We continue to believe that iteratively putting great tools in the hands of people leads to great, broadly-distributed outcomes. "Reflections" by Sam Altman, January 2025 - https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections

by Havoc 1y ago

throwfaraway4 1y ago

"AGI achieved internally" -- Sam Altman

infecto 1y ago
Yes a quote from a meme post on Reddit. No doubt he has been overselling the future for a while but why use a quote with the wrong context?
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  See the sibling comment from AlexandrB. Altman and tons of other hype men in tech do this thing where they make outrageous promises, then retcon as “just jokes” whichever ones don’t come true, so that they can never be disproven. It’s a swindle made all the more irritating by the enablers like you who go “why did you take the joke seriously?” to get cred on the internet while helping the scam continue. Or to put it another way, do you think Altman denounced all the hype (and subsequent investment dollars) he got because of the “AGI achieved internally” post? Did he say to anyone “hey, that was a meme post, don’t take it seriously”? Or did he milk it for all it was worth before only later quietly climbing down from that when it was no longer paying dividends. Again, duplicitous and disingenuous behavior.
  - infecto 1y ago
    Again, out of all the quotes to call out the weakest one was picked.
    - amanaplanacanal 1y ago
      So you admit he was lying then. If he is a known liar, then we know what to expect, I guess.
      - infecto 1y ago
        I am not admitting anything as I don’t have any skin in the game. It’s just a weak hyperbolic quote compared to the PR narrative.
        betaminecraft 1y ago
        [dead]
nocoiner 1y ago
“Hidden, poorly internally labeled fiat@ account”

coldpie 1y ago

I don't think anyone serious is talking about AGI from LLMs, no.

phist_mcgee 1y ago
And yet altman talks about AGI being imminent, but his company has only ever produced LLMs.
- parineum 1y ago
  Now why would the CEO of an AI company say something like that!?
  - AstroBen 1y ago
    Is it a given that they need to unrealistically hype everything? To me it just seems like he's killing any and all credibility he had Probably a bad long term strategy? I mean other non-AI companies use hype too sure.. but it's maybe a little sprinkle of 1.1x on top aimed to highlight their best features. Here we're going full on 100x of reality
    - parineum 1y ago
      It's not a given but Altman is a public figure for a reason while I don't know the names of any of the other CEOs off the top of my head. He talks a lot and when he talks, it's about AI. Even talking about the dangers of AI is hype because it implies it's an important topic to discuss now because it's imminent.
    - coldpie 1y ago
      > To me it just seems like he's killing any and all credibility he had. Probably a bad long term strategy? He's already got more money than God and there's an infinite supply of suckers who think wealth and skill/intelligence are correlated for him to keep feeding off of (see also Goop and Tesla, incredibly successful companies also run by wealthy hucksters). Sam Altman will be just fine.

gtirloni 1y ago

> We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it. We believe that, in 2025, we may see the first AI agents "join the workforce" and materially change the output of companies. We continue to believe that iteratively putting great tools in the hands of people leads to great, broadly-distributed outcomes. "Reflections" by Sam Altman, January 2025 - https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections