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Just to add to this, if we see F1 cars a way to measure the cutting edge of cars being developed, we can see cars haven't become insanely faster than they were

Just to add to this, if we see F1 cars a way to measure the cutting edge of cars being developed, we can see cars haven't become insanely faster than they were 10-20 years ago, just more "efficient",reliable and definitely safer along with quirks like DRS. Of course shaving off a second or two from laptimes is notable, but not an insane delta like say if you compared a car from post 2000s GP to 1950s GP. I feel after a while we will have specialized LLMs great for one particular task down the line as well, cut off updates, 0.something better than the SOTA on some benchmark and as compute gets better, cheaper to run at scale.

Anonyneko 1y ago
To be fair, the speed of F1 cars is mostly limited by regulations that are meant to make the sport more competitive and entertaining. With fewer restrictions on engines and aerodynamics we could have had much faster cars within a year. But even setting safety issues aside, the insane aero wash would make it nearly impossible to follow another car, let alone overtake it, hence the restrictions and the big "rule resets" every few years that slow down the cars, compensating for all of the tricks the teams have found over that time. (I agree with the general thoughts on the state of LLMs though, just a bit too much into open-wheel cars going vroom vroom in circles for two hours at a time)
epolanski 1y ago
> we can see cars haven't become insanely faster than they were 10-20 years ago I don't think this is a good example, because the regulations in F1 are largely focused on slowing the cars. It's an engineering miracle that 2025 cars can be competitive with previous generation cars on so many tracks.
- anshumankmr 1y ago
  >I don't think this is a good example, because the regulations in F1 are largely focused on slowing the cars. I do agree with this, wish we got to see the V10s race with slicks :(
jakubmazanec 1y ago
> if we see F1 cars a way to measure the cutting edge of cars being developed As other commenters noted, F1 regulations are made to make the racing competitive and interesting to watch. But you can design car that would be much faster [1] and even undrivable for humans due to large Gs. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_X2010 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_X2010

Anonyneko 1y ago

To be fair, the speed of F1 cars is mostly limited by regulations that are meant to make the sport more competitive and entertaining. With fewer restrictions on engines and aerodynamics we could have had much faster cars within a year. But even setting safety issues aside, the insane aero wash would make it nearly impossible to follow another car, let alone overtake it, hence the restrictions and the big "rule resets" every few years that slow down the cars, compensating for all of the tricks the teams have found over that time. (I agree with the general thoughts on the state of LLMs though, just a bit too much into open-wheel cars going vroom vroom in circles for two hours at a time)

epolanski 1y ago

> we can see cars haven't become insanely faster than they were 10-20 years ago I don't think this is a good example, because the regulations in F1 are largely focused on slowing the cars. It's an engineering miracle that 2025 cars can be competitive with previous generation cars on so many tracks.

anshumankmr 1y ago
>I don't think this is a good example, because the regulations in F1 are largely focused on slowing the cars. I do agree with this, wish we got to see the V10s race with slicks :(

jakubmazanec 1y ago

> if we see F1 cars a way to measure the cutting edge of cars being developed As other commenters noted, F1 regulations are made to make the racing competitive and interesting to watch. But you can design car that would be much faster [1] and even undrivable for humans due to large Gs. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_X2010 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_X2010