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It's amazing just how ill-understood this tech is, even by its creators who are funded by gazillions of dollars. Reminds me of this: https://www.searchenginejo
by karim79 1y ago
It's amazing just how ill-understood this tech is, even by its creators who are funded by gazillions of dollars. Reminds me of this:
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/researchers-test-if-threats-improve-ai-improves-performance/552813/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/researchers-test-if-thre...
It just doesn't reassure me in the slightest. I don't see how super duper auto complete will lead to AGI. All this hype reminds me of Elon colonizing mars by 2026 and millions or billions of robots by 2030 or something.
- manmal 1y agoReminds me of Elon saying that self-driving a car is essentially ballistics. It explains quite a bit of how FSD is going.
- simondotau 1y agoFSD is going pretty well. Have you looked at real drives recently, or just consumed the opinions of others?
- brettgriffin 1y agoHow is it going? I use it every day in NYC and I think it's incredible.
- wat10000 1y agoHow often do you need to intervene?
- brettgriffin 1y agoAlmost never. The biggest issue is how conservative it is when accelerating after a stop sign or red light. I'm prone to get honked at if I don't press the gas manually. NYC (like most major US cities) treat stop signs as yield signs, so I'll manually roll through those. But I've never had to intervene because it was going to hit something or drive me the wrong direction.
- onli 1y agoYou are not. There is no car that has FSD. If you are relying on teslas autopilot thinking it is fsd you are just playing with your and everyone else's life on the road. Especially in an urban traffic situation like NYC.
- brettgriffin 1y agoI once heard a comedian say 'show me the bodies' in response to the safety of nuclear energy. I just love the pragmatic and blunt way of looking at a perceived threat. So: show me the bodies.
- onli 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashe... https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190725-will-we-ever-know-chernobyls-true-death-toll https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190725-will-we-ever-kno... It's not exactly secret...
- brettgriffin 1y agoMaybe it wasn't clear, but 'show me the bodies' implies the onus to demonstrate mass fatalities, not dozens after billions of Autopilot miles. The bodies just don't exist. To be clear, I don't think either of us are right or wrong. We have different risk profiles. Telsa reports one crash per 7.5M miles of Autopilot (and again, most of these recorded incidents have operator errors, but I'm happy to keep them in the count). That is absolutely within a threshold I would accept for this level of advancement in technology and safety.
- iancmceachern 1y agoI took a continuing education class from Stanford on ML recently and this was my main takeaway. Even the experts are just kinda poking it with a stick and seeing what happens.
- pandemic_region 1y agoThat's just how science happens sometimes and how new discoveries are made. Heck even I have to do that sometimes with the codebase of large legacy applications. It's not en unreasonable tactic sometime.
- Rodmine 1y agoIncompetent people waiting for “science to happen” while the merchant class lies to the peasants about what science should be for them to make money. Explains what is going on.
- 6Az4Mj4D 1y agoAs I was reading that prompt, it looked like large blob of if else case statements
- MaxLeiter 1y agoThis is generally how prompt engineering works 1. Start with a prompt 2. Find some issues 3. Prompt against those issues* 4. Condense into a new prompt 5. Go back to (1) * ideally add some evals too
- refactor_master 1y agoMaybe we can train a simpler model to come up with the correct if/else-statements for the prompt. Like a tug boat.
- otabdeveloper4 1y agoHobbyists (random dudes who use LLM models to roleplay locally) have already figured out how to "soft-prompt". This is when you use ML to optimize an embedding vector to serve as your system prompt instead of guessing and writing it out by hand like a caveman. Don't know why the big cloud LLM providers don't do this.
- wyager 1y ago> I don't see how super duper auto complete will lead to AGI Autocomplete is the training algorithm, not what the model "actually does". Autocomplete was chosen because it has an obvious training procedure and it generalizes well to non-autocomplete stuff.
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- bluefirebrand 1y agoEvery single piece of hype coverage that comes out about anything is really just geared towards pumping the stock values That's really all there is too it imo. These executives are all just lying constantly to build excitement to pump value based on wishes and dreams. I don't think any of them genuinely care even a single bit about truth, only money
- karim79 1y agoThat's exactly it. It's all "vibe" or "meme" stock with the promise of AGI right around the corner. Just like Mars colonisation in 2026 and other stupid promises designed to pump it up.
- almostgotcaught 1y agoWelcome to for profit enterprises? The fact that anyone even for a moment thought otherwise is the real shocking bit of news.
- bluefirebrand 1y agoThe fact this is normalized and considered okay should make us more angry, not just scoff and say "of course it's all fake and lies, did you really think otherwise?" We should be pissed at how often corporations lie in marketing and get away with it
- almostgotcaught 1y ago> We should be pissed at how often corporations lie in marketing and get away with it Some of us are pissed? The rest of us want to exploit that freedom and thus the circle of life continues. But my point is your own naivete will always be your own responsibility.
- bluefirebrand 1y agoIf you say so I think that's a pretty shit way to be though. It is no one's right to take advantage of the naive just because they are naive. That is the sort of shit a good society would prevent when possible
- Davidzheng 1y agoIf you could see how it would basically be done. But it not being obvious doesn't prevent us from getting there (superhuman in almost all domains) in a few new breakthroughs