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Your argument is simply not true. iOS users regularly update as we've seen time and time again. Windows users regularly update. OSX users regularly update. Wha

Your argument is simply not true. iOS users regularly update as we've seen time and time again. Windows users regularly update. OSX users regularly update. What makes Android users so different ?

vetinari 14y ago
Only iOS users regularly update. Windows Phone was also sold only to enthusiasts, who had to update to Mango, as the platform matured. Other cellphone platforms users do not update, even if they can. In some cases, they cannot and they are used to that (e.g. Symbian). Windows and OSX are desktop systems, and not all of their owners update. Witness the prevalence of XP and 10.5 in the wild.
- Steko 14y ago
  If memory serves me correctly there's a decent sized pool of iOS users that never hooked up their phone to the computer and so haven't gotten any updates since they bought pre-OTA. Going by wikipedia's usage share of web browsers maybe I'll say 15%+?
  - vetinari 14y ago
    You are right, when taking anectodes into account, I have such users around me. Even those, who are capable of OTA updates, they often don't (if your monthly limit is 1GB of data, you are not going to burn it on update). It may be difficult to accept on HN, but really, mainstream users do not care about firmware updates. It is actually net negative for them. They have a device they are using and the update changes the behavior, that they are used to.
fpgeek 14y ago
Apple makes it difficult for iOS users to not update (consider all of the effort in the jailbreaking community to keep devices on old OS versions). Android OEMs and carriers, on the other hand, often make it easy to not update even when an update is available. For instance, they might deliberately not push an OTA update and instead require users to use a manufacturer-proprietary desktop application if they want the update. And, unlike iTunes for iOS users, most Android users aren't in the habit of using these applications since they're almost never necessary and usually less convenient than doing things directly on the device.

Your argument is simply not true. iOS users regularly update as we've seen time and time again. Windows users regularly update. OSX users regularly update. What makes Android users so different ?

vetinari 14y ago

Only iOS users regularly update. Windows Phone was also sold only to enthusiasts, who had to update to Mango, as the platform matured. Other cellphone platforms users do not update, even if they can. In some cases, they cannot and they are used to that (e.g. Symbian). Windows and OSX are desktop systems, and not all of their owners update. Witness the prevalence of XP and 10.5 in the wild.

Steko 14y ago
If memory serves me correctly there's a decent sized pool of iOS users that never hooked up their phone to the computer and so haven't gotten any updates since they bought pre-OTA. Going by wikipedia's usage share of web browsers maybe I'll say 15%+?
- vetinari 14y ago
  You are right, when taking anectodes into account, I have such users around me. Even those, who are capable of OTA updates, they often don't (if your monthly limit is 1GB of data, you are not going to burn it on update). It may be difficult to accept on HN, but really, mainstream users do not care about firmware updates. It is actually net negative for them. They have a device they are using and the update changes the behavior, that they are used to.

fpgeek 14y ago

Apple makes it difficult for iOS users to not update (consider all of the effort in the jailbreaking community to keep devices on old OS versions). Android OEMs and carriers, on the other hand, often make it easy to not update even when an update is available. For instance, they might deliberately not push an OTA update and instead require users to use a manufacturer-proprietary desktop application if they want the update. And, unlike iTunes for iOS users, most Android users aren't in the habit of using these applications since they're almost never necessary and usually less convenient than doing things directly on the device.