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It also scares me how good they are in appealing and social engineering. They have made me feel good about poor judgment and bad decision at least twice (which

by nicce 1y ago

It also scares me how good they are in appealing and social engineering. They have made me feel good about poor judgment and bad decision at least twice (which I noticed later on, still in time). New, strict system prompt and they give the opposite opinion and recommend against their previous suggestion. They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything and make you believe that this is what you should do unless you are among the 1% experts in the topic.

lacy_tinpot 1y ago
> They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything This honestly just sounds like distilled intelligence. Because a huge pitfall for very intelligent people is that they're really good at convincing themselves of really bad ideas. That but commoditized en masse to all of humanity will undoubtedly produce tragic results. What an exciting future...
Terr_ 1y ago
> They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything To sharpen the point a bit, I don't think it's genius "arguing" or logical jujitsu, but some simpler factors: 1. The experience has reached a threshold where we start to anthropomorphize the other end as a person interacting with us. 2. If there were a person, they'd be totally invested in serving you, with nearly unlimited amounts of personal time, attention, and focus given to your questions and requests. 3. The (illusory) entity is intrinsically shameless and appears ever-confident. Taken together, we start judging the fictional character like a human, and what kind of human would burn hours of their life tirelessly responding and consoling me for no personal gain, never tiring, breaking-character, or expressing any cognitive dissonance? *gasp* They're my friend now and I should trust them. Keeping my guard up is so tiring anyway, so I'm sure anything wrong is either an honest mistake or some kind of misunderstanding on my part, right? TLDR: It's not not mentat-intelligence or even eloquence, but rather stuff that overlaps with culty indoctrination tricks and con[fidence]-man tactics.

by nicce 1y ago

lacy_tinpot 1y ago

> They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything This honestly just sounds like distilled intelligence. Because a huge pitfall for very intelligent people is that they're really good at convincing themselves of really bad ideas. That but commoditized en masse to all of humanity will undoubtedly produce tragic results. What an exciting future...

Terr_ 1y ago

> They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything To sharpen the point a bit, I don't think it's genius "arguing" or logical jujitsu, but some simpler factors: 1. The experience has reached a threshold where we start to anthropomorphize the other end as a person interacting with us. 2. If there were a person, they'd be totally invested in serving you, with nearly unlimited amounts of personal time, attention, and focus given to your questions and requests. 3. The (illusory) entity is intrinsically shameless and appears ever-confident. Taken together, we start judging the fictional character like a human, and what kind of human would burn hours of their life tirelessly responding and consoling me for no personal gain, never tiring, breaking-character, or expressing any cognitive dissonance? *gasp* They're my friend now and I should trust them. Keeping my guard up is so tiring anyway, so I'm sure anything wrong is either an honest mistake or some kind of misunderstanding on my part, right? TLDR: It's not not mentat-intelligence or even eloquence, but rather stuff that overlaps with culty indoctrination tricks and con[fidence]-man tactics.