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If the attack causes the original key to no longer work, imo the major threat vector is someone sitting in a parking lot, capturing key presses, performing the
by theoreticalmal 1y ago
If the attack causes the original key to no longer work, imo the major threat vector is someone sitting in a parking lot, capturing key presses, performing the attack, and forcing the user to tow+re-program the key as a nuisance, rather than stealing the vehicle
- summermusic 1y agoIn addition to being able to break in and steal anything that’s kept in the car
- ponector 1y agoOne don't need any keys or other equipment for that. Glass is really fragile unless armored with foil.
- kube-system 1y agoAnd still most thieves don't even bother with doing that, they simply walk around and find a car that was inadvertently left unlocked.
- protocolture 1y agoCapture the lock as they walk into a store. Take the car while they are in the store.
- boudin 1y agoI'm not sure this attack allows starting the car itself.
- protocolture 1y agohttps://i.blackhat.com/USA-22/Thursday/US-22-Csikor-RollBack-A-New-Time-Agnostic-Replay-Attack.pdf https://i.blackhat.com/USA-22/Thursday/US-22-Csikor-RollBack...
- kube-system 1y agoThis is not that. Keyless radio and remote start radio are typically two different systems.
- goda90 1y agoEven more nefarious is preventing the victim from using their vehicle as a refuge or escape from a dangerous situation such as an attempted murder or kidnapping.
- kube-system 1y agoMight make for a good movie plot -- but if someone is putting that much thought into premeditating a murder, there's a lot more straightforward ways to trap someone other than elaborate hacking scenarios.
- mormegil 1y agoOn what car do you _need_ the remote to enter and drive the car (having tow the only alternative to e.g. the remote battery dying)? In all cars I have used, you could just use the physical key if the remote failed.
- randunel 1y agoMy wife certainly doesn't know how to unlock and start the car without the "keyless" function. Every time the fob runs out of battery, she needs step by step instructions otherwise she's stuck there. She uses and sometimes programs SQL and API calls at work, but knows next to nothing about cars.