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Both the submission and your link took me way too long to see what's the issue here. What were they even thinking? Don't they care about this? Is their AI gene

Both the submission and your link took me way too long to see what's the issue here. What were they even thinking? Don't they care about this? Is their AI generating all their charts now and they don't even bother to review it?

panarky 1y ago
Since everyone assumes GPT hallucinated these charts, the truth must be that they're 100% pure, organic, unadulterated human fuckups.
- croes 1y ago
  Doesn’t matter. Either way is bad
  - datadrivenangel 1y ago
    Either way is bad. Intentionally human made and approved is worse than machine generated and not reviewed. Malicious versus sloppy.
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    - croes 1y ago
      Machine generated is worse. How many charts will the person create, how many the machine?
windowdoor 1y ago
My unjustified and unscientific opinion is that AI makes you stupid. That's based solely on my own personal vibes after regularly using LLMs for a while. I became less willing to and capable of thinking critically and carefully.
- nicce 1y ago
  It also scares me how good they are in appealing and social engineering. They have made me feel good about poor judgment and bad decision at least twice (which I noticed later on, still in time). New, strict system prompt and they give the opposite opinion and recommend against their previous suggestion. They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything and make you believe that this is what you should do unless you are among the 1% experts in the topic.
  - lacy_tinpot 1y ago
    > They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything This honestly just sounds like distilled intelligence. Because a huge pitfall for very intelligent people is that they're really good at convincing themselves of really bad ideas. That but commoditized en masse to all of humanity will undoubtedly produce tragic results. What an exciting future...
  - Terr_ 1y ago
    > They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything To sharpen the point a bit, I don't think it's genius "arguing" or logical jujitsu, but some simpler factors: 1. The experience has reached a threshold where we start to anthropomorphize the other end as a person interacting with us. 2. If there were a person, they'd be totally invested in serving you, with nearly unlimited amounts of personal time, attention, and focus given to your questions and requests. 3. The (illusory) entity is intrinsically shameless and appears ever-confident. Taken together, we start judging the fictional character like a human, and what kind of human would burn hours of their life tirelessly responding and consoling me for no personal gain, never tiring, breaking-character, or expressing any cognitive dissonance? *gasp* They're my friend now and I should trust them. Keeping my guard up is so tiring anyway, so I'm sure anything wrong is either an honest mistake or some kind of misunderstanding on my part, right? TLDR: It's not not mentat-intelligence or even eloquence, but rather stuff that overlaps with culty indoctrination tricks and con[fidence]-man tactics.
- II2II 1y ago
  No. AI is a tool to make ourselves look stupid. Suggesting that it makes people stupid suggest that they are even looking at the output.
brundolf 1y ago
It makes Apple's charts look rigorous and transparent
sundarurfriend 1y ago
> Both the submission and your link took me way too long to see what's the issue here. Mission accomplished for them then.
rsynnott 1y ago
I mean, if your whole business is producing an endless stream of incorrect output and calling it good enough, why would you care about accuracy here? The whole ethos of the LLM evangelist, essentially, is "bad stuff is good, actually".

panarky 1y ago

Since everyone assumes GPT hallucinated these charts, the truth must be that they're 100% pure, organic, unadulterated human fuckups.

croes 1y ago
Doesn’t matter. Either way is bad
- datadrivenangel 1y ago
  Either way is bad. Intentionally human made and approved is worse than machine generated and not reviewed. Malicious versus sloppy.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - croes 1y ago
    Machine generated is worse. How many charts will the person create, how many the machine?

windowdoor 1y ago

My unjustified and unscientific opinion is that AI makes you stupid. That's based solely on my own personal vibes after regularly using LLMs for a while. I became less willing to and capable of thinking critically and carefully.

nicce 1y ago
It also scares me how good they are in appealing and social engineering. They have made me feel good about poor judgment and bad decision at least twice (which I noticed later on, still in time). New, strict system prompt and they give the opposite opinion and recommend against their previous suggestion. They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything and make you believe that this is what you should do unless you are among the 1% experts in the topic.
- lacy_tinpot 1y ago
  > They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything This honestly just sounds like distilled intelligence. Because a huge pitfall for very intelligent people is that they're really good at convincing themselves of really bad ideas. That but commoditized en masse to all of humanity will undoubtedly produce tragic results. What an exciting future...
- Terr_ 1y ago
  > They are so good at arguing that they can justify almost anything To sharpen the point a bit, I don't think it's genius "arguing" or logical jujitsu, but some simpler factors: 1. The experience has reached a threshold where we start to anthropomorphize the other end as a person interacting with us. 2. If there were a person, they'd be totally invested in serving you, with nearly unlimited amounts of personal time, attention, and focus given to your questions and requests. 3. The (illusory) entity is intrinsically shameless and appears ever-confident. Taken together, we start judging the fictional character like a human, and what kind of human would burn hours of their life tirelessly responding and consoling me for no personal gain, never tiring, breaking-character, or expressing any cognitive dissonance? *gasp* They're my friend now and I should trust them. Keeping my guard up is so tiring anyway, so I'm sure anything wrong is either an honest mistake or some kind of misunderstanding on my part, right? TLDR: It's not not mentat-intelligence or even eloquence, but rather stuff that overlaps with culty indoctrination tricks and con[fidence]-man tactics.
II2II 1y ago
No. AI is a tool to make ourselves look stupid. Suggesting that it makes people stupid suggest that they are even looking at the output.

brundolf 1y ago

It makes Apple's charts look rigorous and transparent

sundarurfriend 1y ago

> Both the submission and your link took me way too long to see what's the issue here. Mission accomplished for them then.

rsynnott 1y ago

I mean, if your whole business is producing an endless stream of incorrect output and calling it good enough, why would you care about accuracy here? The whole ethos of the LLM evangelist, essentially, is "bad stuff is good, actually".