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I don't think the public wants AGI either. Some enthusiasts and tech bros want it for questionable reasons such as replacing labor and becoming even richer.

kergonath 1y ago
For some it’s a religion. It’s frightening to hear Sam Altman or Peter Thiel talk about it. These people have a messiah complex and are driven by more than just greed (though there is also plenty of that).
- mattgreenrocks 1y ago
  There’s a real anti-human bent to some of the AI maximalists, as well. It’s like a resentment over other people accruing skills that are recognized and they grow in. Hence the insistence on “democratizing” art and music production.
  - skydhash 1y ago
    As someone who have dabbled in drawing and tried to learn the guitar, those skills are hard to get. It takes times to get decent and a touch of brilliance to get really good. In contrast learning enough to know you’re not good yet (and probably never will be) is actually easy. But now I know enough to enjoy real masters going at it and fantasize sometimes.
    - mattgreenrocks 1y ago
      It’s funny you say that — those are two things I was and am really into! For me I never felt like I had fun with guitar until I found the right teacher. That took a long time. Now I’m starting to hit flow state in practice sessions which just feeds the desire to play more.
fragmede 1y ago
Don't they? Is everyone who doesn't want to do chores and would rather have a robot do it for them a tech bro? I do the dishes in my apartment and the rest of my chores but to be completely honest, I'd rather not have to.
- saulpw 1y ago
  But the robots are doing our thinking and our creating, leaving us to do the chores of stitching it all together. If only we could do the creating and they would do the chores..
  - euroderf 1y ago
    We shall be Their meatspace puppets, and we shall be rewarded with panem et circenses.
aianus 1y ago
Pretty sure a majority of regular people don't want to go to work and would be happy to see their jobs automated away provided their material quality of life didn't go down.
- williamdclt 1y ago
  > happy to see their jobs automated away provided their material quality of life didn't go down Sure but literally _who_ is planning for this? Not any of the AI players, no government, no major political party anywhere. There's no incentive in our society that's set up for this to happen.
  - lazide 1y ago
    There is bullshit to try to placate the masses - but the reality of course is nearly everyone will definitely suffer material impacts to quality of life. For exactly the reasons you mention.

kergonath 1y ago

For some it’s a religion. It’s frightening to hear Sam Altman or Peter Thiel talk about it. These people have a messiah complex and are driven by more than just greed (though there is also plenty of that).

mattgreenrocks 1y ago
There’s a real anti-human bent to some of the AI maximalists, as well. It’s like a resentment over other people accruing skills that are recognized and they grow in. Hence the insistence on “democratizing” art and music production.
- skydhash 1y ago
  As someone who have dabbled in drawing and tried to learn the guitar, those skills are hard to get. It takes times to get decent and a touch of brilliance to get really good. In contrast learning enough to know you’re not good yet (and probably never will be) is actually easy. But now I know enough to enjoy real masters going at it and fantasize sometimes.
  - mattgreenrocks 1y ago
    It’s funny you say that — those are two things I was and am really into! For me I never felt like I had fun with guitar until I found the right teacher. That took a long time. Now I’m starting to hit flow state in practice sessions which just feeds the desire to play more.

fragmede 1y ago

Don't they? Is everyone who doesn't want to do chores and would rather have a robot do it for them a tech bro? I do the dishes in my apartment and the rest of my chores but to be completely honest, I'd rather not have to.

saulpw 1y ago
But the robots are doing our thinking and our creating, leaving us to do the chores of stitching it all together. If only we could do the creating and they would do the chores..
- euroderf 1y ago
  We shall be Their meatspace puppets, and we shall be rewarded with panem et circenses.

aianus 1y ago

Pretty sure a majority of regular people don't want to go to work and would be happy to see their jobs automated away provided their material quality of life didn't go down.

williamdclt 1y ago
> happy to see their jobs automated away provided their material quality of life didn't go down Sure but literally _who_ is planning for this? Not any of the AI players, no government, no major political party anywhere. There's no incentive in our society that's set up for this to happen.
- lazide 1y ago
  There is bullshit to try to placate the masses - but the reality of course is nearly everyone will definitely suffer material impacts to quality of life. For exactly the reasons you mention.