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Seems like the real innovation of LLM-based AI models is the creation of a new human-computer interface. Instead of writing code with exacting parameters, futu
by gunnaraasen 1y ago
Seems like the real innovation of LLM-based AI models is the creation of a new human-computer interface.
Instead of writing code with exacting parameters, future developers will write human-language descriptions for AI to interpret and convert into a machine representation of the intent. Certainly revolutionary, but not true AGI in the sense of the machine having truly independent agency and consciousness.
In ten years, I expect the primary interface of desktop workstations, mobile phones, etc will be voice prompts for an AI interface. Keyboards will become a power-user interface and only used for highly technical tasks, similar to the way terminal interfaces are currently used to access lower-level systems.
- spogbiper 1y agobrain-computer interface will kill the keyboard, not voice. imho
- margalabargala 1y agoIf that ever exists. A BCI able to capture sufficient nuance to equal voice is probably further out than the lifespan of anyone commenting here.
- diego_sandoval 1y ago5 years ago, almost everyone in this forum would have said that something like GPT-5 "is probably further out than the lifespan of anyone commenting here."
- margalabargala 1y agoIt has been more than 5 years since the release of GPT-3. GPT-5 is a marginal, incremental improvement over GPT-4. GPT-4 was a moderate, but not groundbreaking, improvement over GPT-3. So, "something like GPT-5" has existed for longer than the timeline you gave. Let's pretend the above is false for a moment though, and rewind even further. I still think you're wrong. Would people in 2015 have said "AI that can code at the level of a CS college grad is a lifespan away"? I don't think so, no. I think they would have said "That's at least a decade away", anytime pre-2018. Which, sure, maybe they were a couple years off, but if it seemed like that was a decade away in 2015, well, it's been a decade since 2015.
- int_19h 1y agoGPT-4 was a massive improvement over GPT-3.5, which was a moderate improvement over GPT-3. GPT-5 is not that big of a leap, but when you compare it to the original GPT-4, it's also not a marginal improvement.
- margalabargala 1y agoGPT-2 to 3 was the only really "groundbreaking" one. 3 to 3.5, 3.5 to 4, were all just differences in degree, not in kind.
- spogbiper 1y agoit really just needs to let me create text faster/better than typing does, i'm not sure it needs to be voice based at all. maybe we "imagine" typing on a keyboard or move a fantom appendage or god knows what
- margalabargala 1y agoIt needs to be as accurate as the typing, though. Voice can do that. A BCI cannot capture a nuanced sentence.
- roygbiv2 1y agoI can't get voice accurate. For some people it might be but nothing understands my accent. It's very frustrating.
- gavinray 1y agoThey're ~10 years or out so, based on current research.
- margalabargala 1y agoPerpetually 10 years out you mean? BCI tech has not meaningfully changed in the last 10 years.
- gunnaraasen 1y agoAgreed, but feels like brain-computer interfaces ready for mass adoption will not be available for another decade or two.
- in_a_hole 1y agoI disagree. A keyboard enforces a clarity and precision of information that does not naturally arise from our internal thought processes. I'm sure many people here have thought they understood something until they tried to write it down in precise language. It's the same sort of reason we use a rigid symbolic language for mathematics and programming rather than natural language with all its inherent ambiguities. Dijkstra has more thoughts on this https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD667.html https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD667...
- spogbiper 1y agowhy can't the brain interface be a virtual keyboard that i "type" on?
- originalcopy 1y agoIt always surprises me when someone predicts that keyboards will go away. People love typing. Or I do love typing. No way I am going to talk to my phone, especially if someone else can hear it (which is always basically).
- glhaynes 1y agoIt’s interesting to note that nobody even talks on their phone anymore, they type (on terrible “keyboards”!).
- monkeydust 1y agoThey talk on zoom, teams etc. yes phone is almost dead in the office.
- asadotzler 1y agoThose are applications, not interfaces. No one controls those applications with their voices, they use buttons, either touch or mechanical.
- fragmede 1y agoJust because you don't doesn't mean other people aren't. It's pretty handy to be able to tell Google to turn off the hallway light from the bedroom, instead of having to get out of bed to do that.
- goatlover 1y agoThey talk to other humans on those apps, not the computer. I've noticed less dictation over time in public but that's just anecdotal. I never use voice when a keyboard is available.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 1y agoI have fat fingers, I always dictate into the phone if I need to send a message longer than 2-3 words.
- kaffekaka 1y agoVoice interface sound awful. But maybe I am a power user. I don't even like voice interface to most people.
- rvnx 1y agoIt doesn't work well at all with ChatGPT. You say something, and in the middle of a sentence, ChatGPT in Voice mode replies to you something completely unrelated
- tigen 1y agoIt works great with my kids sometimes. Asking a series of questions about some kid-level science topic for instance. They get to direct it to exactly what they want to know, and you can see they are more actively engaged than watching some youtube video or whatever. I'm sure it helps that it's not getting outside of well-established facts, and is asking for facts and not novel design tasks. I'm not sure but it also seems to adopt a more intimate tone of voice as they get deeper into a topic, very cozy. The voice itself is tuned to the conversational context. It probably infers that this is kid stuff too.
- Fr0styMatt88 1y agoOr it stops talking mid-sentence because you cleared your throat or someone else in the room is watching TV and other people are speaking.
- gunnaraasen 1y agoI also find current voice interfaces are terrible. I only use voice commands to set timers or play music. That said, voice is the original social interface for humans. We learn to speak much earlier than we learn to read/write. Better voice UIs will be built to make new workflows with AI feel natural. I'm thinking along the lines of a conversational companion, like the "Jarvis" AI in the Iron Man movies. That doesn't exist right now, but it seems inevitable that real-time, voice-directed AI agent interfaces will be perfected in coming years. Companies, like [Eleven Labs](https://elevenlabs.io/ https://elevenlabs.io/), are already working on the building blocks.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoAI is more like a compiler. Much like we used to write in C or python which compiles down to machine code for the computer, we can now write in plain English, which is ultimately compiled down to machine code.
- hoanamiu 1y agoLLMs are nothing like compilers. This sort of analogy based verbal reasoning is flimsy, and I understand why it correlates with projecting intelligence onto LLM output.
- anticensor 1y agoWe are just not used to non-deterministic translation of computer programs and LLMs are very good at non-deterministic translation.
- xienze 1y agoI get your analogy, but LLMs are inherently non deterministic. That’s the last thing you want your compiler to be.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoYou're right. But many people are using it just like a compiler (by blindly accepting its outputs). Not saying that's a good thing...
- holoduke 1y agoThey are deterministic. Random seeding makes them not. But thats a feature.
- xienze 1y agoDoesn’t changing even one word in your prompt affect the output?
- KoolKat23 1y agoIt's an interesting one, a problem I feel is coming to the fore more often. I feel typing can be too cumbersome to communicate what I want, but at the same time, speaking I'm imprecise and sometimes would prefer the privacy a keyboard allows. Both have cons. Perhaps brain interface, or even better, it's so predictive it just knows what I want most of the time. Imagine that, grunting and getting what I want.
- jcgrillo 1y ago> In ten years, I expect the primary interface of desktop workstations, mobile phones, etc will be voice prompts I doubt it. The keyboard and mouse are fit predators, and so are programming, query, and markup languages. I wouldn't dismiss them so easily. This guy has a point: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD667.html https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD667...
- euroderf 1y ago> Instead of writing code with exacting parameters, future developers will write human-language descriptions for AI to interpret and convert into a machine representation of the intent. Oh, I know! Let's call it... "requirements management"!