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Honestly it's pretty worrying, I don't understand how other people can talk about "you have to have multiple offsite backups" when each offsite runs about $700

Honestly it's pretty worrying, I don't understand how other people can talk about "you have to have multiple offsite backups" when each offsite runs about $700 per year for a relatively small amount of data. I can only afford one off-site backup, and if my local copy dies it'll take a couple of weeks for me to restore from AWS because of local internet speed limitations.

dylan604 1y ago
Offsite does not have to mean another cloud solution. If you have a copy of data on a thumbdrive or other external media, you can leave it at your parent's house (or other family member). You can keep a copy of it in a safety deposit box. If it's at a family member's house, it's just an excuse to visit on a semi-regular schedule as you swap out with an updated version.
- pavel_lishin 1y ago
  Yep. My backups - personal ones, not business - live in three places: 1. A hard drive in a fire safe. 2. An S3 bucket, mediated by Wasabi. 3. My friend's server that lives at his house half a continent away. It would be nice to have a fourth location that's a physical hard-drive that lives outside of my house, but close enough to drive to for pick-up, but it would mean either paying for a safety deposit box as you mentioned, or hassling a friend once a week as I come to pick it up and deposit it.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    > My friend's server that lives at his house half a continent away. I figure that if a disaster that takes out my house and someone across town at the same time, I probably won't be worrying about restoring data. Across continent would only be viable with a server like you mentioned essentially buddyCloud.
    - electroly 1y ago
      > I probably won't be worrying about restoring data I urge you to reconsider this belief if you have the financial means. Life continues after natural disasters. I lived in a place that was devastated by a hurricane and many people's homes were destroyed. Those people still live and work today, and they still needed their files. They especially needed their insurance documents after the hurricane.

dylan604 1y ago

Offsite does not have to mean another cloud solution. If you have a copy of data on a thumbdrive or other external media, you can leave it at your parent's house (or other family member). You can keep a copy of it in a safety deposit box. If it's at a family member's house, it's just an excuse to visit on a semi-regular schedule as you swap out with an updated version.

pavel_lishin 1y ago
Yep. My backups - personal ones, not business - live in three places: 1. A hard drive in a fire safe. 2. An S3 bucket, mediated by Wasabi. 3. My friend's server that lives at his house half a continent away. It would be nice to have a fourth location that's a physical hard-drive that lives outside of my house, but close enough to drive to for pick-up, but it would mean either paying for a safety deposit box as you mentioned, or hassling a friend once a week as I come to pick it up and deposit it.
- dylan604 1y ago
  > My friend's server that lives at his house half a continent away. I figure that if a disaster that takes out my house and someone across town at the same time, I probably won't be worrying about restoring data. Across continent would only be viable with a server like you mentioned essentially buddyCloud.
  - electroly 1y ago
    > I probably won't be worrying about restoring data I urge you to reconsider this belief if you have the financial means. Life continues after natural disasters. I lived in a place that was devastated by a hurricane and many people's homes were destroyed. Those people still live and work today, and they still needed their files. They especially needed their insurance documents after the hurricane.