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The majority of compute users do not care. Everyone who uses a tablet or smartphone obviously doesn’t care. Anyone on a Mac doesn’t care, and even on windows,

by dagmx 1y ago

The majority of compute users do not care. Everyone who uses a tablet or smartphone obviously doesn’t care. Anyone on a Mac doesn’t care, and even on windows, only very performance sensitive people would care if Prism isn’t doing its thing. You’d essentially be left with AAA PC gamers and other performance sensitive people, which are a small percentage of overall users.

jtbayly 1y ago
They don’t care until they can’t print... I had a user buy an ARM Windows device last year. I thought it was a sweet little computer, but the large multi-function Sharp printers don’t have drivers, so the best I could do was get basic printing working. Not double sided, not finishing options, etc. Pretty much a bummer that I expect to go away in the next few years, but still currently a place that can matter and cause people to lean x86.
- zamadatix 1y ago
  Isn't there some big standardized/common print driver push going on in Windows 11 these days? I wonder if that's related.
  - jabl 1y ago
    There's "driverless" printing in the form of Mopria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopria_Alliance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopria_Alliance (known as "IPP Everywhere" in the Linux universe)
    - doubled112 1y ago
      As far as I know, AirPrint is a superset of IPP Everywhere, so most printers that support macOS/iPad/iOS will accidentally support printing on Linux too. It makes sense, seeing that CUPS is used on all of them.
- vulcan01 1y ago
  Why is Prism unable to emulate the x86 drivers?
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    Because so far Microsoft has not implemented such feature. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation#how-emulation-works https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x8... > Note that emulation only supports user mode code and does not support drivers; any kernel mode components must be compiled as Arm64. Yes, Prism isn't as good as Rosetta.

by dagmx 1y ago

jtbayly 1y ago

They don’t care until they can’t print... I had a user buy an ARM Windows device last year. I thought it was a sweet little computer, but the large multi-function Sharp printers don’t have drivers, so the best I could do was get basic printing working. Not double sided, not finishing options, etc. Pretty much a bummer that I expect to go away in the next few years, but still currently a place that can matter and cause people to lean x86.

zamadatix 1y ago
Isn't there some big standardized/common print driver push going on in Windows 11 these days? I wonder if that's related.
- jabl 1y ago
  There's "driverless" printing in the form of Mopria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopria_Alliance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopria_Alliance (known as "IPP Everywhere" in the Linux universe)
  - doubled112 1y ago
    As far as I know, AirPrint is a superset of IPP Everywhere, so most printers that support macOS/iPad/iOS will accidentally support printing on Linux too. It makes sense, seeing that CUPS is used on all of them.
vulcan01 1y ago
Why is Prism unable to emulate the x86 drivers?
- pjmlp 1y ago
  Because so far Microsoft has not implemented such feature. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation#how-emulation-works https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x8... > Note that emulation only supports user mode code and does not support drivers; any kernel mode components must be compiled as Arm64. Yes, Prism isn't as good as Rosetta.