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> This is an insane amount of money to give away to employees who were presumably already happy with their compensation package. I mean, a house is probably a

by Shank 1y ago

> This is an insane amount of money to give away to employees who were presumably already happy with their compensation package. I mean, a house is probably a nice gift and a good reassurance of future safety if AGI/ASI ruins all future jobs.

candiddevmike 1y ago
How do OpenAI employees come out unscathed if AGI/ASI ruins all future jobs? Why would OpenAI keep these employees around? Would there even be humans as part of "OpenAI Inc" at that point? I guess I don't understand how anyone could keep an AGI/ASI that can perform any job in bondage/slavery. Seems like human exceptionalism/hubris at its finest.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  If you have no mortgage, own your home, and have saved enough in investments, even if AGI/ASI materially impairs the labor economy, you are in a far better position than someone who rents, someone with a large mortgage who needs a job for the next 20-30 years, etc assuming rule of law holds up. Free money is free money, to not take it would be silly. Just don't blow it on a Lambo. I'm not qualified to touch on your point wrt constraining and wrangling machine intelligence, so no comment on that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamC7-Pt8N0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamC7-Pt8N0 (NSFW language, first 45 seconds is the relevant part)
  - const_cast 1y ago
    If AGI gets invented and the requirement for labor goes away, even if not fully, then all bets are off - the entire economy, everywhere, collapses. The fundamental underpinning of capitalism as an ideology is that people must work for compensation. As soon as that is no longer true, capitalism as an ideology and system no longer works at all, in any way. That means markets no longer exist, you no longer own your home, and as the intersection of economy and politics, it's highly likely laws no longer apply.
thatfrenchguy 1y ago
I mean, you need to pay property taxes on that :)
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  You can do that with a minimum wage job, rental, or heloc
  - filoeleven 1y ago
    Who are you going to rent to?
    - toomuchtodo 1y ago
      People who have jobs AGI can’t do.
      - forkeep 1y ago
        [dead]
meindnoch 1y ago
Only if said house is in a gated community, secured by a private militia with heavy weaponry.

by Shank 1y ago

candiddevmike 1y ago

How do OpenAI employees come out unscathed if AGI/ASI ruins all future jobs? Why would OpenAI keep these employees around? Would there even be humans as part of "OpenAI Inc" at that point? I guess I don't understand how anyone could keep an AGI/ASI that can perform any job in bondage/slavery. Seems like human exceptionalism/hubris at its finest.

toomuchtodo 1y ago
If you have no mortgage, own your home, and have saved enough in investments, even if AGI/ASI materially impairs the labor economy, you are in a far better position than someone who rents, someone with a large mortgage who needs a job for the next 20-30 years, etc assuming rule of law holds up. Free money is free money, to not take it would be silly. Just don't blow it on a Lambo. I'm not qualified to touch on your point wrt constraining and wrangling machine intelligence, so no comment on that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamC7-Pt8N0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamC7-Pt8N0 (NSFW language, first 45 seconds is the relevant part)
- const_cast 1y ago
  If AGI gets invented and the requirement for labor goes away, even if not fully, then all bets are off - the entire economy, everywhere, collapses. The fundamental underpinning of capitalism as an ideology is that people must work for compensation. As soon as that is no longer true, capitalism as an ideology and system no longer works at all, in any way. That means markets no longer exist, you no longer own your home, and as the intersection of economy and politics, it's highly likely laws no longer apply.

thatfrenchguy 1y ago

I mean, you need to pay property taxes on that :)

yieldcrv 1y ago
You can do that with a minimum wage job, rental, or heloc
- filoeleven 1y ago
  Who are you going to rent to?
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    People who have jobs AGI can’t do.
    - forkeep 1y ago
      [dead]

meindnoch 1y ago

Only if said house is in a gated community, secured by a private militia with heavy weaponry.