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The AI race seems more defined by spending more money than the other guy, regardless of results. The benefits just seem like a game of PR one upmanship tied to

by duxup 1y ago

The AI race seems more defined by spending more money than the other guy, regardless of results. The benefits just seem like a game of PR one upmanship tied to I don't know what. The OpenAI Ive acquisition / partnership is strange / expensive / the webpage was downright creepy ...

npongratz 1y ago
> The AI race seems more defined by spending more money than the other guy, regardless of results. Reminds me of the much-vaunted, then widely maligned and derided, burn rate metric of the dot-com bubble.
dist-epoch 1y ago
> regardless of results Are we living in the same world, are you saying the LLMs of today are not vastly more capable than the ones from 1 or 2 years ago?
- duxup 1y ago
  I find LLMs useful for coding and some basic Q&A. But the scale of investment / expenditure relative to profit and those useful tasks seem pretty far from each other.
benreesman 1y ago
I think everyone should want a directional incentive that hard work and the kinds of success that attach to hard work combined with cultivated expertise would be lucrative, on average if we reward positive outcomes achieved in productive rather than extractive ways? Good system. No one is mad when the smartest person they know who works constantly gets paid out. Some of these people getting these nosebleed offers I'm like, yeah, you pay that person 50 million they make you 250, I've seen it. But it feels pretty fucking random at this juncture, I know really strong people kinda getting by, total hood ornaments in like, stupidly senior slots, its like if you took OG Google tough but fair stack rank from back when they were legitimately elite, and just shuffled the deck until there were zero bits of information left. How do you compete on thst with a rising China, an India not far behind, and a Europe starting to wake up?
tim333 1y ago
It's funny how it's changed. Hassabis on Lex the other day: >I remember when we were starting out back in 2010, I didn’t even pay myself a couple of years because it wasn’t enough money. We couldn’t raise any money, and these days, interns are being paid the amount that we raised as our first entire seed round. So it’s pretty funny. And I remember the days where I used to have to work for free and almost pay my own way to do an internship. Right now, it’s all the other around, but that’s just how it is.

by duxup 1y ago

npongratz 1y ago

> The AI race seems more defined by spending more money than the other guy, regardless of results. Reminds me of the much-vaunted, then widely maligned and derided, burn rate metric of the dot-com bubble.

dist-epoch 1y ago

> regardless of results Are we living in the same world, are you saying the LLMs of today are not vastly more capable than the ones from 1 or 2 years ago?

duxup 1y ago
I find LLMs useful for coding and some basic Q&A. But the scale of investment / expenditure relative to profit and those useful tasks seem pretty far from each other.

benreesman 1y ago

I think everyone should want a directional incentive that hard work and the kinds of success that attach to hard work combined with cultivated expertise would be lucrative, on average if we reward positive outcomes achieved in productive rather than extractive ways? Good system. No one is mad when the smartest person they know who works constantly gets paid out. Some of these people getting these nosebleed offers I'm like, yeah, you pay that person 50 million they make you 250, I've seen it. But it feels pretty fucking random at this juncture, I know really strong people kinda getting by, total hood ornaments in like, stupidly senior slots, its like if you took OG Google tough but fair stack rank from back when they were legitimately elite, and just shuffled the deck until there were zero bits of information left. How do you compete on thst with a rising China, an India not far behind, and a Europe starting to wake up?

tim333 1y ago

It's funny how it's changed. Hassabis on Lex the other day: >I remember when we were starting out back in 2010, I didn’t even pay myself a couple of years because it wasn’t enough money. We couldn’t raise any money, and these days, interns are being paid the amount that we raised as our first entire seed round. So it’s pretty funny. And I remember the days where I used to have to work for free and almost pay my own way to do an internship. Right now, it’s all the other around, but that’s just how it is.