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A joke which could, out of context, be interpreted to be a threat of violence: > on Thursday we kill all the Mexico’s Especially considering the frequency of

• deleted 1y ago
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• giantg2 1y ago
  "can't really blame the school for jumping to conclusions" Of course you can blame the school. They were too lazy to look at context and determine if the threat was real and credible. They took the determination of a complex tool as an unquestionable fact. The system supplies the fact that the user's account made the comment. All other facts need to be made by investigation. This statement provides a reasonable suspicion to investigate, but should not exhibit probable cause for an arrest as it requires a threat be credible, incite panick, etc per the specific terrorist threat law. This requires investigation and thought.
  • sofixa 1y ago
    > Of course you can blame the school. They were too lazy to look at context and determine if the threat was real and credible Do you think whoever is doing this at the school is a qualified professional, e.g. a child/teen psychiatrist that knows the kid in question well enough, to be able to determine if the threat was real and credible?
    • giantg2 1y ago
      You don't have to be an expert to read the context. In normal terroristic threat cases the people involved are not psychologists. The police aren't using any child psychologists either. The problem here is the brainless reliance on what a system spits outs. The world would have ended by now if we relied on automated systems without using common sense (see multiple ICBM radar false positives during the cold war).
      • jacquesm 1y ago
        Kids saying shit is now equivalent to 'normal terrorist[ic] threat cases'? Or did I miss something. If you can't evaluate the data, don't collect the data.
        • giantg2 1y ago
          "Kids saying shit is now equivalent to 'normal terrorist[ic] threat cases'?" It's terroristic threats. That's the law most of the school shooting threats would get charged under. The real problem is that most states have automatic reporting laws, which means you have to report anything that sounds like a threat even if it isn't. This is the main difference between regular cases and school cases - you end up with a lot of junk being reported and potentially causing more harm than it was intended to prevent.
          • jacquesm 1y ago
            A 13 year old girl is not able to make a credible generalized terrorist threat against a large swath of the population, and besides, the first thing you should do when a kid starts making dumb statements like that is check in with them and their parents, not to call the police. Automatic reporting laws that lead to 13 year old girls being strip-searched are not something anybody should want. There is an easy way to stop 99.9% of all school shootings, and it isn't 'automatic reporting laws'.
            • DonHopkins 1y ago
              Nor automatic weapons for all the teachers. https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/arming-teachers-still-terrible-idea https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/arming-teach... https://www.ue.org/risk-management/premises-safety/increased-risks-and-costs-of-arming-educators/ https://www.ue.org/risk-management/premises-safety/increased...
              • jacquesm 1y ago
                I find proximity to weapons a fairly good indicator of whether or not you're at risk of being shot. If teachers were armed that would be the last time my kids went to school.
    • 1718627440 1y ago
      Educating children is literally the schools profession. If you are looking for a state employed child psychiatrist it will be in the school.
    • tremon 1y ago
      Being unqualified to make a decision and then still making that decision only makes you more culpable, not less.
  • potato3732842 1y ago
    And they stuck to it despite the fact that the situation became "serious". Like if you're gonna do "make the news" shit you oughta at least have someone check your goddamn work first.
• astura 1y ago
  It's a threat of violence in context as well.