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The article misrepresents the European Parliament’s child protection proposal as an attack on privacy rather than a targeted response to the growing problem of

by nelox 1y ago

The article misrepresents the European Parliament’s child protection proposal as an attack on privacy rather than a targeted response to the growing problem of online child abuse. The claim that the EU wants to “mandate mass surveillance” overstates the scope. In fact, the legislation proposes specific detection orders, issued only with judicial approval, and applies them in a proportionate and time-limited manner [1]. It also ignores that encrypted platforms are currently being used to distribute child sexual abuse material (CSAM), with detection dropping sharply since platforms like Meta turned off scanning in the EU [2]. The proposed regulation seeks to restore basic protective capabilities under judicial scrutiny, not blanket surveillance. The article further overlooks that the European Court of Justice has ruled out general and indiscriminate retention of data, which will still apply under the new law [3]. Rather than political blackmail, this is democratic legislation attempting to balance privacy rights with protecting children from horrific crimes. The framing of this effort as “political blackmail” sensationalises what is actually a measured legislative process with checks, balances and limited scope. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A20... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67870668 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67870668 [3] https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2022-04/cp220065en.pdf https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/202... Edit:urls

jjgreen 1y ago
Won't someone think of the children?
- nickslaughter02 1y ago
  EU is marching towards total dystopia worse than China. Based on the other comment there are even people who applaud the effort. It's absolutely sickening. Of course EU bureaucrats will then be in total disbelieve that parties who want to dismantle the EU are gaining support.
nickslaughter02 1y ago
tl;dr: You are using outdated information and intentionally misrepresent the proposal. Officer, I will never accept mass surveillance of citizens under the disguise of protecting children which this proposal does not achieve at all. If they wanted to protect children they would work on school programs to teach children how to behave on the internet. Instead they are establishing a mass surveillance platform and using children to guilt weak and spineless politicians to agree to it. > In fact, the legislation proposes specific detection orders, issued only with judicial approval, and applies them in a proportionate and time-limited manner The document you linked is from 2022 and doesn't reflect the current proposal at all. https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ (The Chat Control 2.0 proposal in detail) > It also ignores that encrypted platforms are currently being used Then they will use something else and you will be spying on regular people. > The proposed regulation seeks to restore basic protective capabilities under judicial scrutiny, not blanket surveillance. This is a lie. There's no targeting (except to exclude politicians and other government workers). Every message (video, image, text) will be scanned and reported if the AI considers it illegal. https://european-pirateparty.eu/chatcontrol-eu-ministers-want-to-exempt-themselves/ https://european-pirateparty.eu/chatcontrol-eu-ministers-wan... > has ruled out general and indiscriminate retention of data Not to worry, EU Commission's ProtectEU plan includes mandatory data retention harmonized and shared across all member states. Did you forget to mention it? https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/14680-Data-retention-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-impact-assessment_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-sa... > measured legislative process with checks, balances and limited scope Lobbied by surveillance companies who talk to EU representatives behind closed doors and some even leave to work for these companies? https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...

by nelox 1y ago

jjgreen 1y ago

Won't someone think of the children?

nickslaughter02 1y ago
EU is marching towards total dystopia worse than China. Based on the other comment there are even people who applaud the effort. It's absolutely sickening. Of course EU bureaucrats will then be in total disbelieve that parties who want to dismantle the EU are gaining support.

nickslaughter02 1y ago

tl;dr: You are using outdated information and intentionally misrepresent the proposal. Officer, I will never accept mass surveillance of citizens under the disguise of protecting children which this proposal does not achieve at all. If they wanted to protect children they would work on school programs to teach children how to behave on the internet. Instead they are establishing a mass surveillance platform and using children to guilt weak and spineless politicians to agree to it. > In fact, the legislation proposes specific detection orders, issued only with judicial approval, and applies them in a proportionate and time-limited manner The document you linked is from 2022 and doesn't reflect the current proposal at all. https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ (The Chat Control 2.0 proposal in detail) > It also ignores that encrypted platforms are currently being used Then they will use something else and you will be spying on regular people. > The proposed regulation seeks to restore basic protective capabilities under judicial scrutiny, not blanket surveillance. This is a lie. There's no targeting (except to exclude politicians and other government workers). Every message (video, image, text) will be scanned and reported if the AI considers it illegal. https://european-pirateparty.eu/chatcontrol-eu-ministers-want-to-exempt-themselves/ https://european-pirateparty.eu/chatcontrol-eu-ministers-wan... > has ruled out general and indiscriminate retention of data Not to worry, EU Commission's ProtectEU plan includes mandatory data retention harmonized and shared across all member states. Did you forget to mention it? https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/14680-Data-retention-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-impact-assessment_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-sa... > measured legislative process with checks, balances and limited scope Lobbied by surveillance companies who talk to EU representatives behind closed doors and some even leave to work for these companies? https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...