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- a lower false positive rate looking at school and credentials than any skill test they give. - don't really care about false negative rates That pretty much

- a lower false positive rate looking at school and credentials than any skill test they give. - don't really care about false negative rates That pretty much sums it up right there. And it's not hard at all to see _why_ this is the case.

rustystump 1y ago
Is there data that backs this? In my anecdotal experience it is all over the place. Unless i specifically know a given program it is a total crapshoot on if it means anything. I find pedigree to be about predictive of performance as a d20 toss.
- __rito__ 1y ago
  I have been on the hiring side, too. And the difference between a good enough college and an elite college is the density of really good students. If you have a fraction: really good students -------------------- all students in CS Then this number tends to be much higher in elite colleges than good enough colleges. This is my personal experience. (Past) company did hire from non-elite colleges in case-by-case basis, but one time we wanted 4-5 freshers, we did go to the elite college. All students of elite colleges aren't better than all students of good enough colleges, but the fraction is what is different. In a a typical CS dept of 50 students, you can find 40-45 really good ones in elite colleges versus 3-8 in good-enough colleges.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  I doubt you’ll find any public data on this because internal hiring success data is rarely ever released and MOOCs are already a rare resume item. In my experience with hiring, though, it tracks. The number of times I’ve seen a MOOC on a resume is already a small number. Of those, it was usually 1-3 courses, not an entire program. Taking a couple courses does not compare to the repetition and layered learning of an entire program. If someone showed up with an entire MOOC learning program and certificate of completion that I could verify then I would look into it. In my experience you don’t see this. You see people listing a couple MOOC courses right next to their other certifications. When you ask them questions about the topic they usually don’t remember much because it was a one-time course they took.

rustystump 1y ago

Is there data that backs this? In my anecdotal experience it is all over the place. Unless i specifically know a given program it is a total crapshoot on if it means anything. I find pedigree to be about predictive of performance as a d20 toss.

__rito__ 1y ago
I have been on the hiring side, too. And the difference between a good enough college and an elite college is the density of really good students. If you have a fraction: really good students -------------------- all students in CS Then this number tends to be much higher in elite colleges than good enough colleges. This is my personal experience. (Past) company did hire from non-elite colleges in case-by-case basis, but one time we wanted 4-5 freshers, we did go to the elite college. All students of elite colleges aren't better than all students of good enough colleges, but the fraction is what is different. In a a typical CS dept of 50 students, you can find 40-45 really good ones in elite colleges versus 3-8 in good-enough colleges.
Aurornis 1y ago
I doubt you’ll find any public data on this because internal hiring success data is rarely ever released and MOOCs are already a rare resume item. In my experience with hiring, though, it tracks. The number of times I’ve seen a MOOC on a resume is already a small number. Of those, it was usually 1-3 courses, not an entire program. Taking a couple courses does not compare to the repetition and layered learning of an entire program. If someone showed up with an entire MOOC learning program and certificate of completion that I could verify then I would look into it. In my experience you don’t see this. You see people listing a couple MOOC courses right next to their other certifications. When you ask them questions about the topic they usually don’t remember much because it was a one-time course they took.