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Yes, because the theater effectively deceives a large portion of the voting public. "Both sides" here are the least important players in the charade. It's every

by sgc 1y ago

Yes, because the theater effectively deceives a large portion of the voting public. "Both sides" here are the least important players in the charade. It's everybody they are hosing I care about.

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loeg 1y ago
No large portion of the voting public is paying any attention to this.
- lokar 1y ago
  And most who are paying attention are in it for the vibes. They don’t know enough about trade, economics, international relations or policy to really have an opinion independent from “my side good, other side bad”
- TheAlchemist 1y ago
  Not sure - stock market is at all time high, and valuation are above dot com bubble levels. So I think people are actually paying attention and are getting deceived.
  - loeg 1y ago
    This would also be true if people were just mindlessly dumping cash into S&P500 funds in their 401k.
    - TheAlchemist 1y ago
      Partially true, but the valuation would be much more spread out across the components of S&P500, whereas currently they are extremely concentrated in a handfull of names, and a handfull of others (the ones that CEOs are deceiving the public the most) have sky high valuations without being in any index.
pjc50 1y ago
But that's what the voting public wants! They demand to be lied to. The feedback loop is problem announced on Fox news / Truth social -> presidential announcement -> positive coverage on Fox/Truth. It's not like the factory actually has to exist for them to be happy. And if they didn't want to be lied to they wouldn't seek out news sources which lie to them and leave them on in their homes constantly.
- blitzar 1y ago
  > It's not like the factory actually has to exist for them to be happy. If the factory exists it will be ugly, noisy, shit jobs, exploitative, evil bosses, turning the neighbourhood into a slum, etc. People are happier without it existing.
- dlivingston 1y ago
  You say that as if Fox News is the only media org that deceives its viewers. There is a reason that American trust in the media is at an all-time historic low.

by sgc 1y ago

Yes, because the theater effectively deceives a large portion of the voting public. "Both sides" here are the least important players in the charade. It's everybody they are hosing I care about.

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loeg 1y ago

No large portion of the voting public is paying any attention to this.

lokar 1y ago
And most who are paying attention are in it for the vibes. They don’t know enough about trade, economics, international relations or policy to really have an opinion independent from “my side good, other side bad”
TheAlchemist 1y ago
Not sure - stock market is at all time high, and valuation are above dot com bubble levels. So I think people are actually paying attention and are getting deceived.
- loeg 1y ago
  This would also be true if people were just mindlessly dumping cash into S&P500 funds in their 401k.
  - TheAlchemist 1y ago
    Partially true, but the valuation would be much more spread out across the components of S&P500, whereas currently they are extremely concentrated in a handfull of names, and a handfull of others (the ones that CEOs are deceiving the public the most) have sky high valuations without being in any index.

pjc50 1y ago

But that's what the voting public wants! They demand to be lied to. The feedback loop is problem announced on Fox news / Truth social -> presidential announcement -> positive coverage on Fox/Truth. It's not like the factory actually has to exist for them to be happy. And if they didn't want to be lied to they wouldn't seek out news sources which lie to them and leave them on in their homes constantly.

blitzar 1y ago
> It's not like the factory actually has to exist for them to be happy. If the factory exists it will be ugly, noisy, shit jobs, exploitative, evil bosses, turning the neighbourhood into a slum, etc. People are happier without it existing.
dlivingston 1y ago
You say that as if Fox News is the only media org that deceives its viewers. There is a reason that American trust in the media is at an all-time historic low.