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If you come from any other platform, the idea of needing to look up which version of which flavor of Linux you have to find what specific commands you need to u

If you come from any other platform, the idea of needing to look up which version of which flavor of Linux you have to find what specific commands you need to use to do basic things looks insane. systemd has done leaps and bounds for making Linux platforms look reasonably manageable and standardized.

inferiorhuman 1y ago
systemd has done leaps and bounds No it hasn't. For example going from Raspberry Pi OS to stock Debian I have to be mindful of where network manager is used in place of systemd. I have to be mindful of what version systemd is being used. Same hassle as before but now with less POSIX and more binary blobs.
throw0101d 1y ago
> If you come from any other platform, the idea of needing to look up which version of which flavor of Linux you have to find what specific commands you need to use to do basic things looks insane. As opposed to jumping between IRIX and AIX and Solaris? See Rosetta Stone for Unix: * https://bhami.com/rosetta.html https://bhami.com/rosetta.html * https://bhami.com/unix-rosetta.pdf https://bhami.com/unix-rosetta.pdf Wasn't one of the points of multiple distributions was to allow experimentation and allowing for different philosophies of doing things? If you're going to homogenize things what's the point of having multiple distributions in the first place? > systemd has done leaps and bounds for making Linux platforms look reasonably manageable and standardized. So I've gone from service foo start/stop (which also works on BSD) to systemctl foo start/stop. Yay! (Of course some distros use "ssh" and others "sshd", or "apache2" versus "httpd".)
yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago
> If you come from any other platform, the idea of needing to look up which version of which flavor of Linux you have to find what specific commands you need to use to do basic things looks insane Right, which is why Windows home edition is managed via GPO and iOS exposes the same APIs as macOS. /s Different operating systems are different, even if they share a kernel.

inferiorhuman 1y ago

systemd has done leaps and bounds No it hasn't. For example going from Raspberry Pi OS to stock Debian I have to be mindful of where network manager is used in place of systemd. I have to be mindful of what version systemd is being used. Same hassle as before but now with less POSIX and more binary blobs.

throw0101d 1y ago

> If you come from any other platform, the idea of needing to look up which version of which flavor of Linux you have to find what specific commands you need to use to do basic things looks insane. As opposed to jumping between IRIX and AIX and Solaris? See Rosetta Stone for Unix: * https://bhami.com/rosetta.html https://bhami.com/rosetta.html * https://bhami.com/unix-rosetta.pdf https://bhami.com/unix-rosetta.pdf Wasn't one of the points of multiple distributions was to allow experimentation and allowing for different philosophies of doing things? If you're going to homogenize things what's the point of having multiple distributions in the first place? > systemd has done leaps and bounds for making Linux platforms look reasonably manageable and standardized. So I've gone from service foo start/stop (which also works on BSD) to systemctl foo start/stop. Yay! (Of course some distros use "ssh" and others "sshd", or "apache2" versus "httpd".)

yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago

> If you come from any other platform, the idea of needing to look up which version of which flavor of Linux you have to find what specific commands you need to use to do basic things looks insane Right, which is why Windows home edition is managed via GPO and iOS exposes the same APIs as macOS. /s Different operating systems are different, even if they share a kernel.