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Yeah why would an administration that is doing mass illegal deportations without due process want to remove freely available information on Habeas Corpus from t

Yeah why would an administration that is doing mass illegal deportations without due process want to remove freely available information on Habeas Corpus from their websites? Clearly dumb and very sensationalized! Nothing to see here!

Alupis 1y ago
Because it's not published in a million other places? Because it's now officially not the law because it's not on this one particular website? Come on people... you're being rage-baited to hell.
- lwansbrough 1y ago
  You keep harping on the point that the laws haven't changed. Nobody is arguing that. But how would the average person access the text of the constitution? Should they not expect to find the full text on the official government website for the constitution? If I search "US constitution" and congress.gov is the first result, am I dumb for reading that source and believing that is the full text? If I am detained illegally by ICE and I try to inform myself of my constitutional rights through the official government channels, and am not informed of my right to due process, have I been successfully ragebaited?
  - Alupis 1y ago
    > But how would the average person access the text of the constitution? Right, because the average person googles the constitution right away when they are arrested? What are you going to do with this googled info? Show it to the officer and get released? What reality is this even? Nothing on this website changes anything... so yes, you are being very successfully rage baited, to the literal max. Just look how outraged over nothing you are... getting all worked up over a website on a Wednesday afternoon. You'll probably stew on this all day, even complain to others about it. Rage baited, indeed.
    - lwansbrough 1y ago
      Lol this guy thinks ICE detainees are getting lawyers
      - Alupis 1y ago
        So please explain for us, how googling this information from one particular website changes your fictitious scenario with ICE detainees?
      - throwanem 1y ago
        Lol this guy thinks the executive has bothered pretending we had a functioning legislature since about March
    - jmye 1y ago
      > You'll probably stew on this all day, even complain to others about it. Grow up.
  - slowmovintarget 1y ago
    The local Library... Cornell University's annotated Constitution website... A physical copy in their personal set of books... And yes you've been successfully rage-baited, as the site problems were over an hour ago. All the text and missing commentary is back up. From the site: "The Constitution Annotated website is currently experiencing data issues. We are working to resolve this issue and regret the inconvenience."
    - Alupis 1y ago
      I can hear the face-palming now...
- khazhoux 1y ago
  Obviously this has no legal bearing. The question is why was this removed? If a simple accident then this is a non-story. If deliberate, then we must understand what was the chain of command and the motivation for deleting references to habeas corpus on this government website.
pesus 1y ago
And it's an administration that has a history of trying to rewrite history and deny reality when it conflicts with their goals. And regularly claims fundamental parts of the constitution are "unconstitutional" somehow and are actively trying to get rid of them.
xdennis 1y ago
> doing mass illegal deportations without due process I think it's wrong to overreact to what Trump is doing and label things you don't like as "lacking due process" because when he does do something illegal you'll be like the boy who cried wolf. Trump is following the law on immigration but many people think otherwise because of media misinformation. Take the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia. He had his due process and a judge ordered his removal in 2019. He also received "withholding of removal" from being sent home to El Salvador. The administration made a mistake in deporting him there, but they are ordered to deport him. Many of the people you see in the news also had their day in court. But media is also spreading misinformation on arrests. ICE doesn't need warrants to arrest people. This has always been the case. They can also arrest anyone (citizen or not) who commits an illegal act in their presence. It's okay to not like what Trump is doing, but you should protest to change the law, not deny reality. Also, I'm surprised you're using "illegal" instead of "undocumented".
- Volundr 1y ago
  Your skipping over a lot here. Like the fact that Garcia wasn't just "sent home" he was sent to prison. Along with 220 other men, at least 200 of which had no criminal records, and at least 50 of which entered the country legally. Against a judges orders.

Alupis 1y ago

Because it's not published in a million other places? Because it's now officially not the law because it's not on this one particular website? Come on people... you're being rage-baited to hell.

lwansbrough 1y ago
You keep harping on the point that the laws haven't changed. Nobody is arguing that. But how would the average person access the text of the constitution? Should they not expect to find the full text on the official government website for the constitution? If I search "US constitution" and congress.gov is the first result, am I dumb for reading that source and believing that is the full text? If I am detained illegally by ICE and I try to inform myself of my constitutional rights through the official government channels, and am not informed of my right to due process, have I been successfully ragebaited?
- Alupis 1y ago
  > But how would the average person access the text of the constitution? Right, because the average person googles the constitution right away when they are arrested? What are you going to do with this googled info? Show it to the officer and get released? What reality is this even? Nothing on this website changes anything... so yes, you are being very successfully rage baited, to the literal max. Just look how outraged over nothing you are... getting all worked up over a website on a Wednesday afternoon. You'll probably stew on this all day, even complain to others about it. Rage baited, indeed.
  - lwansbrough 1y ago
    Lol this guy thinks ICE detainees are getting lawyers
    - Alupis 1y ago
      So please explain for us, how googling this information from one particular website changes your fictitious scenario with ICE detainees?
    - throwanem 1y ago
      Lol this guy thinks the executive has bothered pretending we had a functioning legislature since about March
  - jmye 1y ago
    > You'll probably stew on this all day, even complain to others about it. Grow up.
- slowmovintarget 1y ago
  The local Library... Cornell University's annotated Constitution website... A physical copy in their personal set of books... And yes you've been successfully rage-baited, as the site problems were over an hour ago. All the text and missing commentary is back up. From the site: "The Constitution Annotated website is currently experiencing data issues. We are working to resolve this issue and regret the inconvenience."
  - Alupis 1y ago
    I can hear the face-palming now...
khazhoux 1y ago
Obviously this has no legal bearing. The question is why was this removed? If a simple accident then this is a non-story. If deliberate, then we must understand what was the chain of command and the motivation for deleting references to habeas corpus on this government website.

pesus 1y ago

And it's an administration that has a history of trying to rewrite history and deny reality when it conflicts with their goals. And regularly claims fundamental parts of the constitution are "unconstitutional" somehow and are actively trying to get rid of them.

xdennis 1y ago

> doing mass illegal deportations without due process I think it's wrong to overreact to what Trump is doing and label things you don't like as "lacking due process" because when he does do something illegal you'll be like the boy who cried wolf. Trump is following the law on immigration but many people think otherwise because of media misinformation. Take the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia. He had his due process and a judge ordered his removal in 2019. He also received "withholding of removal" from being sent home to El Salvador. The administration made a mistake in deporting him there, but they are ordered to deport him. Many of the people you see in the news also had their day in court. But media is also spreading misinformation on arrests. ICE doesn't need warrants to arrest people. This has always been the case. They can also arrest anyone (citizen or not) who commits an illegal act in their presence. It's okay to not like what Trump is doing, but you should protest to change the law, not deny reality. Also, I'm surprised you're using "illegal" instead of "undocumented".

Volundr 1y ago
Your skipping over a lot here. Like the fact that Garcia wasn't just "sent home" he was sent to prison. Along with 220 other men, at least 200 of which had no criminal records, and at least 50 of which entered the country legally. Against a judges orders.