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How many times do we need to hear "exercise and healthy eating" prolong life and improve cognitive function?

by luckydata 1y ago

oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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Cerium 1y ago
Beatings will continue until morale improves.
kashunstva 1y ago
This was a large multi centre prospective RCT; so I would say that it adds to evidence from other sources acquired in less rigorous ways. This was also a structured multidisciplinary intervention; so this study may add to what can be done in terms of implementation, because there is still work to be done on that front. But yes, at face value, it sounds like what we already know! (But which many/most are not implementing…)
pkaler 1y ago
I'm actually working on an app for myself to remind me of that. For example, there is a full glass of water sitting on my desk from 9am. It's noon. I haven't taken a sip. Until now. Constant reminders do work.
- deberon 1y ago
  Oh shit I missed my water break. Thanks for the reminder friend.
- apsurd 1y ago
  How come it's so hard for people to drink water? Honest question. Like why don't you just wake up in the morning, take a whiz, brush your teeth, and drink a glass of water? What gets in between? Because the first two are 99% success rate I'd bet.
  - icelancer 1y ago
    Because most people drink to thirst, not out of habit.
    - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
      But is that bad? Do people actually need to drink more than they are thirsty for? Why is it that our hunger sense is over-tuned, but conventional wisdom says that our hydration sense is under-tuned? Honestly, I feel like "always be drinking" only appeared once bottled water did.
  - nemomarx 1y ago
    Honestly I forget brushing more than I should too, and I skip breakfast most days even though I'm hungry. The friction required to pour the glass or set things up can be a lot early in the morning. It helped me to get a water cooler or something to fill a bottle?
jsbisviewtiful 1y ago
Apparently a lot. Between 2021 and 2023 the US obesity rate was 40%+.
- sunshowers 1y ago
  Instead of berating people or repeating messages over and over, let's focus on getting GLP-1 and GIP receptor agonists into as many people's hands as possible.
  - oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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  - jsbisviewtiful 1y ago
    lol yeah let’s fund more pharma bull shit and kick the can for actually solving the problem. More CEOs need yachts. Diet education and curbing the corps poisoning us is far more effective.
    - sunshowers 1y ago
      You believe in your approach and I believe in mine.
pessimizer 1y ago
It's the signal that they have no idea what they're talking about. Always remember everything doctors said people should do to cure their stomach ulcers: the "why not?" list. "Your medical team has carefully gone over the results of your tests, and we've finally come to the careful consensus that you should keep active, drink more water, get enough sleep but not too much, and eat your vegetables." "But..." "Why not? Do you think vegetables are bad for you?" "But doctor, I have a broken leg!"
- skirmish 1y ago
  "Research says hopping on one foot can burn 600 calories in 30 minutes! Why the look, get going already!"
spidersenses 1y ago
The more important question appears to be why it seems to difficult to follow the advice? Personally, I'm well aware of the positive effects of drinking plenty of water, eating vegetables, exercising daily, and going to bed early. However, I buy myself a chocolate bar every day, love pizza, just want to unwind after a hard day at work, and still read Reddit late into the night. All the healthy stuff has friction: a workout takes time out of the day, the veggies need preparation, while going to bed early means I'm missing out on fun or intriguing things that I would learn about otherwise.
- hn_acc1 1y ago
  It's probably easier to monetize chocolate bars, pizza and reddit (ads). Easier to slip into "junk" mode and harder to stop. My exercise equipment is long paid for (10+ years ago), I watch sports while exercising (subscription paid whether I exercise or not) and going to bed early means less need for caffeine / painkillers to get through the day. Veggies are somewhat more expensive, not sure if the margins are as high on them as on ultra-processed food. And yet, I'm right there with you - I struggle daily with doing the right thing.
  - jerlam 1y ago
    For the elderly, participating on Reddit would probably be a step up. Cable news and Tiktok are far worse.
- bamboozled 1y ago
  Because it takes effort, but once it becomes a habit, it's fine.

How many times do we need to hear "exercise and healthy eating" prolong life and improve cognitive function?

oldpersonintx2 1y ago

[dead]

Cerium 1y ago

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

kashunstva 1y ago

This was a large multi centre prospective RCT; so I would say that it adds to evidence from other sources acquired in less rigorous ways. This was also a structured multidisciplinary intervention; so this study may add to what can be done in terms of implementation, because there is still work to be done on that front. But yes, at face value, it sounds like what we already know! (But which many/most are not implementing…)

pkaler 1y ago

I'm actually working on an app for myself to remind me of that. For example, there is a full glass of water sitting on my desk from 9am. It's noon. I haven't taken a sip. Until now. Constant reminders do work.

deberon 1y ago
Oh shit I missed my water break. Thanks for the reminder friend.
apsurd 1y ago
How come it's so hard for people to drink water? Honest question. Like why don't you just wake up in the morning, take a whiz, brush your teeth, and drink a glass of water? What gets in between? Because the first two are 99% success rate I'd bet.
- icelancer 1y ago
  Because most people drink to thirst, not out of habit.
  - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
    But is that bad? Do people actually need to drink more than they are thirsty for? Why is it that our hunger sense is over-tuned, but conventional wisdom says that our hydration sense is under-tuned? Honestly, I feel like "always be drinking" only appeared once bottled water did.
- nemomarx 1y ago
  Honestly I forget brushing more than I should too, and I skip breakfast most days even though I'm hungry. The friction required to pour the glass or set things up can be a lot early in the morning. It helped me to get a water cooler or something to fill a bottle?

jsbisviewtiful 1y ago

Apparently a lot. Between 2021 and 2023 the US obesity rate was 40%+.

sunshowers 1y ago
Instead of berating people or repeating messages over and over, let's focus on getting GLP-1 and GIP receptor agonists into as many people's hands as possible.
- oldpersonintx2 1y ago
  [dead]
- jsbisviewtiful 1y ago
  lol yeah let’s fund more pharma bull shit and kick the can for actually solving the problem. More CEOs need yachts. Diet education and curbing the corps poisoning us is far more effective.
  - sunshowers 1y ago
    You believe in your approach and I believe in mine.

pessimizer 1y ago

It's the signal that they have no idea what they're talking about. Always remember everything doctors said people should do to cure their stomach ulcers: the "why not?" list. "Your medical team has carefully gone over the results of your tests, and we've finally come to the careful consensus that you should keep active, drink more water, get enough sleep but not too much, and eat your vegetables." "But..." "Why not? Do you think vegetables are bad for you?" "But doctor, I have a broken leg!"

skirmish 1y ago
"Research says hopping on one foot can burn 600 calories in 30 minutes! Why the look, get going already!"

spidersenses 1y ago

The more important question appears to be why it seems to difficult to follow the advice? Personally, I'm well aware of the positive effects of drinking plenty of water, eating vegetables, exercising daily, and going to bed early. However, I buy myself a chocolate bar every day, love pizza, just want to unwind after a hard day at work, and still read Reddit late into the night. All the healthy stuff has friction: a workout takes time out of the day, the veggies need preparation, while going to bed early means I'm missing out on fun or intriguing things that I would learn about otherwise.

hn_acc1 1y ago
It's probably easier to monetize chocolate bars, pizza and reddit (ads). Easier to slip into "junk" mode and harder to stop. My exercise equipment is long paid for (10+ years ago), I watch sports while exercising (subscription paid whether I exercise or not) and going to bed early means less need for caffeine / painkillers to get through the day. Veggies are somewhat more expensive, not sure if the margins are as high on them as on ultra-processed food. And yet, I'm right there with you - I struggle daily with doing the right thing.
- jerlam 1y ago
  For the elderly, participating on Reddit would probably be a step up. Cable news and Tiktok are far worse.
bamboozled 1y ago
Because it takes effort, but once it becomes a habit, it's fine.