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I prefer 100% more time and 100% more money. This is an unrealistic question, it deserves an unrealistic answer.

shortrounddev2 1y ago
What about it is unrealistic? That your boss would allow you to have a 4 day week, or that you'd be offered a 20% raise? Or both
- alganet 1y ago
  I'm unemployed, so consider this as a general observation. There are many considerations both employers and employees make beyond money and time. The question is unrealistic because it forces whoever answers to choose between restricted choices. It sounds more like a poll than the representation of an actual choice a real person would have. Both the pursuit of extra money or extra time, in my books, leads to degeneration of work relations. The exploration of these kinds of incentives also leads to degeneration of work relations. Therefore, to me, the question sounds like an affirmation of the (perhaps unconscious) desire to keep companies in control of employees choices. That, obviously leads to the question of "if not time and money, what should an employee want then?", with many possible answers to pick from (all probably irrelevant when considered individually). I obviously want to work as little as possible, and have as many resources as possible fruit of that minimal work, in order to pursuit a simple but happy and fullfilling life. What that entails, is highly incompatible with the array of possible off the shelf answers available for such an inquiry. In that perspective, it seems that the whole world is in debt and out of time. We work for things we don't need and have resources incompatible with it. All my previous employers owe me, a lot. The same goes for all kinds of workers. Their superiors, either direct or implicit, owe them, and so on. 20%, or any number, any vague simplistic idea, is futile. Do you understand?
  - shortrounddev2 1y ago
    Why is it that wanting more money or time degenerates relations if you're the employee, but not if you're the employer? In a job, the pursuit of money defines my work relation. Paying me for my time is literally the only relation I have with my job. If I didn't work there, I wouldn't be speaking to these people or doing coding work for fun
    - alganet 1y ago
      I am confident you can find those answers on your own, exactly as I did.
      - shortrounddev2 1y ago
        What? I'm asking for your opinion
        alganet 1y ago
        I have given it, but you don't comprehend some parts of it. The point which you are asking me to elaborate on is a discussion dead end. You are compelled to see it as an adversarial employee-employer dispute instead of a more complex dynamic. I can't waste my time on that.

What about it is unrealistic? That your boss would allow you to have a 4 day week, or that you'd be offered a 20% raise? Or both

alganet 1y ago
I'm unemployed, so consider this as a general observation. There are many considerations both employers and employees make beyond money and time. The question is unrealistic because it forces whoever answers to choose between restricted choices. It sounds more like a poll than the representation of an actual choice a real person would have. Both the pursuit of extra money or extra time, in my books, leads to degeneration of work relations. The exploration of these kinds of incentives also leads to degeneration of work relations. Therefore, to me, the question sounds like an affirmation of the (perhaps unconscious) desire to keep companies in control of employees choices. That, obviously leads to the question of "if not time and money, what should an employee want then?", with many possible answers to pick from (all probably irrelevant when considered individually). I obviously want to work as little as possible, and have as many resources as possible fruit of that minimal work, in order to pursuit a simple but happy and fullfilling life. What that entails, is highly incompatible with the array of possible off the shelf answers available for such an inquiry. In that perspective, it seems that the whole world is in debt and out of time. We work for things we don't need and have resources incompatible with it. All my previous employers owe me, a lot. The same goes for all kinds of workers. Their superiors, either direct or implicit, owe them, and so on. 20%, or any number, any vague simplistic idea, is futile. Do you understand?
- shortrounddev2 1y ago
  Why is it that wanting more money or time degenerates relations if you're the employee, but not if you're the employer? In a job, the pursuit of money defines my work relation. Paying me for my time is literally the only relation I have with my job. If I didn't work there, I wouldn't be speaking to these people or doing coding work for fun
  - alganet 1y ago
    I am confident you can find those answers on your own, exactly as I did.
    - shortrounddev2 1y ago
      What? I'm asking for your opinion
      - alganet 1y ago
        I have given it, but you don't comprehend some parts of it. The point which you are asking me to elaborate on is a discussion dead end. You are compelled to see it as an adversarial employee-employer dispute instead of a more complex dynamic. I can't waste my time on that.