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We are waaayyy passed that line. We are, for just about every definition, living in an authoritarian state. Trump has immunity, from the Supreme Court, suppo

We are waaayyy passed that line. We are, for just about every definition, living in an authoritarian state. Trump has immunity, from the Supreme Court, support in the house and senate, support of the media, and enough support from the military. Freaadom isnt free. I think americans forget that. They are waiting for someone else to come save them, which will NEVER happen.

AlexandrB 1y ago
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- chabes 1y ago
  Trump is a headline generator. The media undoubtedly supports him. Epstein headlines are big engagement vectors, yet haven’t seemed to bring about any sort of accountability. They can report on things that make him look bad, and he remains in power, with his supporters still supporting him despite the evidence presented.
  - AlexandrB 1y ago
    > Trump is a headline generator. The media undoubtedly supports him. Isn't this like saying "doctors are pro heart disease because it keeps them employed"? > Epstein headlines are big engagement vectors, yet haven’t seemed to bring about any sort of accountability. True, but accountability for who exactly? There are a few people who are known to have been on the island - Prince Andrew, Bill Gates. No real accountability for them so far. Then there's a lot of suspicion around political figures like Trump and Bill Clinton, but no hard evidence. The fact that the Biden administration took no action here either suggests that either there's not enough evidence to actually do anything or prominent figures from both parties are implicated. I'd love to know the truth but I suspect that Epstein is going to be our generations JFK assassination and people are going to be spinning conspiracy theories about the situation for decades while the truth remains murky.
    - philistine 1y ago
      > there's not enough evidence to actually do anything The fact there isn't enough evidence for a criminal conviction does not mean the public does not have a right to full transparency from the government. There is such a thing as public opinion. If Clinton is credibly implicated, we deserve to know so we can form a better opinion of him. Same for Trump.
- ergonaught 1y ago
  They are, generally, propping up the regime. So long as the media continues to report this regime as a temporary and normal occurrence, regardless of whether a specific media outlet labels this as positive or negative, it supports the regime.
- unethical_ban 1y ago
  He is held to a much different, lower standard than other politicians. I respect the NYT but we had articles near-daily about (Biden's ) age and capacity for office, because decent people (Democrats) care about that sort of thing. Donald Trump daily shows he is mentally unfit for office and a terrible, lawbreaking citizen - but because it's expected of him and his party, it gets said and then we read about a cute cottage in Nantucket as if it's all citizens should be doing. We should be organizing general strikes, shutting down cities and more. January 6 wasn't wrong for being violent, it was wrong because it was done for fictional pretenses.
jagrsw 1y ago
You've just rephrased 'The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants' (just an observation, not taking stance here, esp. as an outsider)
- jasonm23 1y ago
  as outsiders we are all wondering where their balls went.
AnimalMuppet 1y ago
> and enough support from the military. That has not yet been shown. When it comes down to it, I wonder what the military will do. Will they uphold their oath, which is to the Constitution? Or will they obey the President, as commander in chief?
- walls 1y ago
  They had no problem moving on citizens in LA.
- philistine 1y ago
  > That has not yet been shown. It is being shown daily. You're forgetting how things work in authoritarian states. In those countries, the military is AT ALL TIMES a risk for a dictator. They must be mollified somehow, lest the trucks with the armed men come rolling towards the palace. In those countries, the military top brass will voice concerns privately, will leak unhappiness with the regime discreetly to other factions in the country. The US military is completely silent and subservient. This means Trump has their support. No one in the military complained when he bombed Iran or sent them to LA, for example. For all we know he did it for them. So Trump does not fear the trucks with men, and so has military support.
- xracy 1y ago
  Which constitution is their oath to?

AlexandrB 1y ago

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chabes 1y ago
Trump is a headline generator. The media undoubtedly supports him. Epstein headlines are big engagement vectors, yet haven’t seemed to bring about any sort of accountability. They can report on things that make him look bad, and he remains in power, with his supporters still supporting him despite the evidence presented.
- AlexandrB 1y ago
  > Trump is a headline generator. The media undoubtedly supports him. Isn't this like saying "doctors are pro heart disease because it keeps them employed"? > Epstein headlines are big engagement vectors, yet haven’t seemed to bring about any sort of accountability. True, but accountability for who exactly? There are a few people who are known to have been on the island - Prince Andrew, Bill Gates. No real accountability for them so far. Then there's a lot of suspicion around political figures like Trump and Bill Clinton, but no hard evidence. The fact that the Biden administration took no action here either suggests that either there's not enough evidence to actually do anything or prominent figures from both parties are implicated. I'd love to know the truth but I suspect that Epstein is going to be our generations JFK assassination and people are going to be spinning conspiracy theories about the situation for decades while the truth remains murky.
  - philistine 1y ago
    > there's not enough evidence to actually do anything The fact there isn't enough evidence for a criminal conviction does not mean the public does not have a right to full transparency from the government. There is such a thing as public opinion. If Clinton is credibly implicated, we deserve to know so we can form a better opinion of him. Same for Trump.
ergonaught 1y ago
They are, generally, propping up the regime. So long as the media continues to report this regime as a temporary and normal occurrence, regardless of whether a specific media outlet labels this as positive or negative, it supports the regime.
unethical_ban 1y ago
He is held to a much different, lower standard than other politicians. I respect the NYT but we had articles near-daily about (Biden's ) age and capacity for office, because decent people (Democrats) care about that sort of thing. Donald Trump daily shows he is mentally unfit for office and a terrible, lawbreaking citizen - but because it's expected of him and his party, it gets said and then we read about a cute cottage in Nantucket as if it's all citizens should be doing. We should be organizing general strikes, shutting down cities and more. January 6 wasn't wrong for being violent, it was wrong because it was done for fictional pretenses.

jagrsw 1y ago

You've just rephrased 'The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants' (just an observation, not taking stance here, esp. as an outsider)

jasonm23 1y ago
as outsiders we are all wondering where their balls went.

AnimalMuppet 1y ago

> and enough support from the military. That has not yet been shown. When it comes down to it, I wonder what the military will do. Will they uphold their oath, which is to the Constitution? Or will they obey the President, as commander in chief?

walls 1y ago
They had no problem moving on citizens in LA.
philistine 1y ago
> That has not yet been shown. It is being shown daily. You're forgetting how things work in authoritarian states. In those countries, the military is AT ALL TIMES a risk for a dictator. They must be mollified somehow, lest the trucks with the armed men come rolling towards the palace. In those countries, the military top brass will voice concerns privately, will leak unhappiness with the regime discreetly to other factions in the country. The US military is completely silent and subservient. This means Trump has their support. No one in the military complained when he bombed Iran or sent them to LA, for example. For all we know he did it for them. So Trump does not fear the trucks with men, and so has military support.
xracy 1y ago
Which constitution is their oath to?