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It may be worth noting that the iframe you see when you search is not google, but google's results served from our site. Of course, if we just showed google in

by drm237 19y ago

It may be worth noting that the iframe you see when you search is not google, but google's results served from our site. Of course, if we just showed google in an iframe, it wouldn't do anything for privacy.

amichail 19y ago
Why is this legal? I thought Google no longer has a search api.
- drm237 19y ago
  The thing is, we're not making money from it in any way (which is why I call it a pseudo' startup), and because of that fair use can apply. Also, think about google. They scrape the entire web and profit by serving that as content...
  - cedsav 19y ago
    Fair use certainly doesn't apply. You're using Google search technology (which btw, involves a bit more than 'scraping' the web) and stripping out the ads (their source of revenue). Expect a cease and desist letter soon.
    - paulgb 19y ago
      Fair use doesn't apply, but if you can get your hands on an old API key it will still work. I built something similar (here: http://www.paulbutler.org/archives/endless-google-search/ http://www.paulbutler.org/archives/endless-google-search/) and I just used an old Google API key, so I don't violate their TOS. It makes me wonder though, since you can't make any money with it, how do you plan to pay for hosting fees? Surely you eventually intend to profit, what will you do then?
      - drm237 19y ago
        Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the API is limited to 1000 searches per day correct? No, I don't plan on profiting from this. This is a very low impact system and I don't mind footing the bill for the hosting costs as long as it's of value to the community.
        paulgb 19y ago
        I see, good work then. You're right, I forgot about the API limit.
davidw 19y ago
Isn't that against their terms of service or something? How's this different/better from some kind of anonymizing proxy like tor?
- drm237 19y ago
  With things like tor, it can be a little slower, especially if you just want to do a single search. With this, we've added in the feature so you can add it to your Firefox/IE7 search box and then easily use it right from the browser. So it's the same idea, we're just focusing on this one feature for the good of the community. The other feature we have is endless scrolling, so if you search and can't find it in the first few results, you can just keep scrolling and we'll continue to populate it. That's something not many others have.

by drm237 19y ago

amichail 19y ago

Why is this legal? I thought Google no longer has a search api.

drm237 19y ago
The thing is, we're not making money from it in any way (which is why I call it a pseudo' startup), and because of that fair use can apply. Also, think about google. They scrape the entire web and profit by serving that as content...
- cedsav 19y ago
  Fair use certainly doesn't apply. You're using Google search technology (which btw, involves a bit more than 'scraping' the web) and stripping out the ads (their source of revenue). Expect a cease and desist letter soon.
  - paulgb 19y ago
    Fair use doesn't apply, but if you can get your hands on an old API key it will still work. I built something similar (here: http://www.paulbutler.org/archives/endless-google-search/ http://www.paulbutler.org/archives/endless-google-search/) and I just used an old Google API key, so I don't violate their TOS. It makes me wonder though, since you can't make any money with it, how do you plan to pay for hosting fees? Surely you eventually intend to profit, what will you do then?
    - drm237 19y ago
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the API is limited to 1000 searches per day correct? No, I don't plan on profiting from this. This is a very low impact system and I don't mind footing the bill for the hosting costs as long as it's of value to the community.
      - paulgb 19y ago
        I see, good work then. You're right, I forgot about the API limit.

davidw 19y ago

Isn't that against their terms of service or something? How's this different/better from some kind of anonymizing proxy like tor?

drm237 19y ago
With things like tor, it can be a little slower, especially if you just want to do a single search. With this, we've added in the feature so you can add it to your Firefox/IE7 search box and then easily use it right from the browser. So it's the same idea, we're just focusing on this one feature for the good of the community. The other feature we have is endless scrolling, so if you search and can't find it in the first few results, you can just keep scrolling and we'll continue to populate it. That's something not many others have.