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The Puritans are here to save us from our immorality.

by baggy_trough 1y ago

JohnFen 1y ago
You mean the immorality of sexually exploiting other people without their consent?
- skeezyboy 1y ago
  the immoral part makes it even sexier
  - sundaeofshock 1y ago
    And people wonder why there is a “male loneliness epidemic”.
    - skeezyboy 1y ago
      americans are particularly moral - its their puritan past
      - ttemPumpinRary 1y ago
        Hey being stuck up is great. It creates sublimation , means ton of work, overcompensation (aka porn) and its great for institutions building, suppressed perverts make great servants of bureaucracy. The smithers effect is very real.
- Joker_vD 1y ago
  Okay, this question probably should be asked from a throwaway, but I'll bite: do you consider imagining some person, without the consent of that person, engaging in a sexual act, to be immoral? Putting this imagination of yours onto a paper, in the form of words or drawing? Or is the problem here is the fact that such imagining was "commissioned" to a third party (I believe I have seen this opinion somewhere long time ago)?
  - JohnFen 1y ago
    > do you consider imagining some person, without the consent of that person, engaging in a sexual act, to be immoral? Of course not. But that's a universe apart from producing and distributing sexual images of unconsenting others.
    - ttemPumpinRary 1y ago
      Is it though, if your neural link uploads your subconscious into the cloud for safety ?
  - npteljes 1y ago
    Yes, third party automated "imagining" is the problem: https://www.citizen.org/news/two-thirds-of-states-enact-bills-protecting-public-from-deepfake-porn/ https://www.citizen.org/news/two-thirds-of-states-enact-bill...
- baggy_trough 1y ago
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  - JohnFen 1y ago
    I couldn't be further from being a Puritan. But if thinking that abusing other people is wrong is what passes for "puritan" these days, I'll embrace that label anyway.
    - baggy_trough 1y ago
      "abusing other people" <- here is the problem.
      - JohnFen 1y ago
        I agree, that is the problem.

The Puritans are here to save us from our immorality.

JohnFen 1y ago

You mean the immorality of sexually exploiting other people without their consent?

skeezyboy 1y ago
the immoral part makes it even sexier
- sundaeofshock 1y ago
  And people wonder why there is a “male loneliness epidemic”.
  - skeezyboy 1y ago
    americans are particularly moral - its their puritan past
    - ttemPumpinRary 1y ago
      Hey being stuck up is great. It creates sublimation , means ton of work, overcompensation (aka porn) and its great for institutions building, suppressed perverts make great servants of bureaucracy. The smithers effect is very real.
Joker_vD 1y ago
Okay, this question probably should be asked from a throwaway, but I'll bite: do you consider imagining some person, without the consent of that person, engaging in a sexual act, to be immoral? Putting this imagination of yours onto a paper, in the form of words or drawing? Or is the problem here is the fact that such imagining was "commissioned" to a third party (I believe I have seen this opinion somewhere long time ago)?
- JohnFen 1y ago
  > do you consider imagining some person, without the consent of that person, engaging in a sexual act, to be immoral? Of course not. But that's a universe apart from producing and distributing sexual images of unconsenting others.
  - ttemPumpinRary 1y ago
    Is it though, if your neural link uploads your subconscious into the cloud for safety ?
- npteljes 1y ago
  Yes, third party automated "imagining" is the problem: https://www.citizen.org/news/two-thirds-of-states-enact-bills-protecting-public-from-deepfake-porn/ https://www.citizen.org/news/two-thirds-of-states-enact-bill...
baggy_trough 1y ago
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- JohnFen 1y ago
  I couldn't be further from being a Puritan. But if thinking that abusing other people is wrong is what passes for "puritan" these days, I'll embrace that label anyway.
  - baggy_trough 1y ago
    "abusing other people" <- here is the problem.
    - JohnFen 1y ago
      I agree, that is the problem.