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Looks like Japan learned from the malicious compliance shenanigans Apple is pulling with the EU. I hope Apple gets served some substantial fines that really hur

Looks like Japan learned from the malicious compliance shenanigans Apple is pulling with the EU. I hope Apple gets served some substantial fines that really hurt when they try to pull the same shit there. And I say, "when", not "if".

namibj 1y ago
Imagine banning sale and import, wonder how long Apple stores have to be closed for Apple to give in....
- onlyrealcuzzo 1y ago
  Wouldn't people in Japan riot because they can't buy iPhones and be part of the tribe? There are few things in life people like more than their iPhones.
  - bad_haircut72 1y ago
    Nobody is gonna riot over an iphone lmao
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    I think you're extrapolating America's materialism to other cultures that don't necessarily care so much. There's not really any feature of the iPhone that can't be replaced by another product. It's only Americans that feel the need to slake brand loyalty with army-of-one boycotts.
    - Alupis 1y ago
      That's totally why 68.75% of Japanese smartphone users own an iPhone[1]... [1] https://magmatranslation.com/stats/en/mobile-usage-trends-in-japan#:~:text=The%20iPhone%20market%20share%20in,portion%20of%20the%20mobile%20market. https://magmatranslation.com/stats/en/mobile-usage-trends-in...
      - bigyabai 1y ago
        I stand by what I said. Apple used to be the leading smartphone manufacturer in China, now they aren't even in the top 5. Sometimes things change, and I doubt China's in shambles because Airdrop isn't ubiquitous. I see no reason why Japan would be different. The notion that American tech companies are invincible is really only a view held by Americans. The overwhelming majority of people I speak to internationally don't care that much about computer brand loyalty.
        Alupis 1y ago
        Maybe not brand loyalty... but people, universally, want the best product available. Today, for a large portion of the world, that is perceived to be the iPhone. The iPhone being banned in Japan because of some policy dispute with the government is going to go over like a bag of wet cement. People may not care that it's "Apple", but they do care the "Best" is being banned for reasons the population doesn't care about.
        j_maffe 1y ago
        Who told you that these are reasons the population doesn't care about? I know at least in Europe there has been wide support for initiatives such as the DMA, even knowing what it would entail. You're running on conjecture here.
        Alupis 1y ago
        You think the population of Japan will be ok with banning iPhones because their governments thinks other web browsers should run on the devices too? How many iPhone users, outside of a small group of "techies" are even aware there are other mobile browsers? Think about your parents or grandparents - not you, someone who has vastly more knowledge in this area. How many "normals" really care... I'd wager near zero.
        owebmaster 1y ago
        Apple stop selling iphones won't take the iphones away, not many people care about their next one. The impact would be negligible and every other country would notice they can demand compliance.
  - izacus 1y ago
    Hehehe, like Apple tried to pull "we'll keep back AI from EU as a punishment" ? Were there riots? :)
    - peterspath 1y ago
      Just change your language to English on your device and you have it. They did not really try.
      - jq-r 1y ago
        If you're talking about Apple Intelligence that's also region locked and that's much more difficult to bypass. Device language has has nothing to do with it.
        illiac786 1y ago
        Where is apple intelligence blocked? I’m in Germany right now and it’s available as far as zu can tell.
resource_waste 1y ago
But I like the walled prison where I can't screw up and make choices for myself. I appreciate that Apple makes it so I can't accidentally give my coordinates and have some Monarch track me and murder me or leak my noods. +4500 upvoots (I always thought it was suspicious that the anti-apple headline had +30k upvoots on reddit, but the top comment was pro-apple with significantly less. Its almost like they paid an external marketing team/troll farm to do reputation management)
- skybrian 1y ago
  You’re thinking like an end user and not like someone who has provide tech support for others. One of the best things I did to make my life easier was getting mom a Chromebook.
  - NotPractical 1y ago
    You can root a Chromebook if you choose to accept the risks involved. This is officially supported.
    - skybrian 1y ago
      Sure, it's a nice feature, but I probably wouldn't. Maybe I'd put a sticker on it saying "my other computer is a Raspberry Pi Pico." It's not necessary to root every device you own. You can use one to do your banking and web browsing and have entirely separate devices for hacking.
      - NotPractical 1y ago
        Unless you want to look like a criminal, I probably wouldn't carry around two phones everywhere you go.

namibj 1y ago

Imagine banning sale and import, wonder how long Apple stores have to be closed for Apple to give in....

onlyrealcuzzo 1y ago
Wouldn't people in Japan riot because they can't buy iPhones and be part of the tribe? There are few things in life people like more than their iPhones.
- bad_haircut72 1y ago
  Nobody is gonna riot over an iphone lmao
- bigyabai 1y ago
  I think you're extrapolating America's materialism to other cultures that don't necessarily care so much. There's not really any feature of the iPhone that can't be replaced by another product. It's only Americans that feel the need to slake brand loyalty with army-of-one boycotts.
  - Alupis 1y ago
    That's totally why 68.75% of Japanese smartphone users own an iPhone[1]... [1] https://magmatranslation.com/stats/en/mobile-usage-trends-in-japan#:~:text=The%20iPhone%20market%20share%20in,portion%20of%20the%20mobile%20market. https://magmatranslation.com/stats/en/mobile-usage-trends-in...
    - bigyabai 1y ago
      I stand by what I said. Apple used to be the leading smartphone manufacturer in China, now they aren't even in the top 5. Sometimes things change, and I doubt China's in shambles because Airdrop isn't ubiquitous. I see no reason why Japan would be different. The notion that American tech companies are invincible is really only a view held by Americans. The overwhelming majority of people I speak to internationally don't care that much about computer brand loyalty.
      - Alupis 1y ago
        Maybe not brand loyalty... but people, universally, want the best product available. Today, for a large portion of the world, that is perceived to be the iPhone. The iPhone being banned in Japan because of some policy dispute with the government is going to go over like a bag of wet cement. People may not care that it's "Apple", but they do care the "Best" is being banned for reasons the population doesn't care about.
        j_maffe 1y ago
        Who told you that these are reasons the population doesn't care about? I know at least in Europe there has been wide support for initiatives such as the DMA, even knowing what it would entail. You're running on conjecture here.
        Alupis 1y ago
        You think the population of Japan will be ok with banning iPhones because their governments thinks other web browsers should run on the devices too? How many iPhone users, outside of a small group of "techies" are even aware there are other mobile browsers? Think about your parents or grandparents - not you, someone who has vastly more knowledge in this area. How many "normals" really care... I'd wager near zero.
        owebmaster 1y ago
        Apple stop selling iphones won't take the iphones away, not many people care about their next one. The impact would be negligible and every other country would notice they can demand compliance.
- izacus 1y ago
  Hehehe, like Apple tried to pull "we'll keep back AI from EU as a punishment" ? Were there riots? :)
  - peterspath 1y ago
    Just change your language to English on your device and you have it. They did not really try.
    - jq-r 1y ago
      If you're talking about Apple Intelligence that's also region locked and that's much more difficult to bypass. Device language has has nothing to do with it.
      - illiac786 1y ago
        Where is apple intelligence blocked? I’m in Germany right now and it’s available as far as zu can tell.

resource_waste 1y ago

But I like the walled prison where I can't screw up and make choices for myself. I appreciate that Apple makes it so I can't accidentally give my coordinates and have some Monarch track me and murder me or leak my noods. +4500 upvoots (I always thought it was suspicious that the anti-apple headline had +30k upvoots on reddit, but the top comment was pro-apple with significantly less. Its almost like they paid an external marketing team/troll farm to do reputation management)

skybrian 1y ago
You’re thinking like an end user and not like someone who has provide tech support for others. One of the best things I did to make my life easier was getting mom a Chromebook.
- NotPractical 1y ago
  You can root a Chromebook if you choose to accept the risks involved. This is officially supported.
  - skybrian 1y ago
    Sure, it's a nice feature, but I probably wouldn't. Maybe I'd put a sticker on it saying "my other computer is a Raspberry Pi Pico." It's not necessary to root every device you own. You can use one to do your banking and web browsing and have entirely separate devices for hacking.
    - NotPractical 1y ago
      Unless you want to look like a criminal, I probably wouldn't carry around two phones everywhere you go.