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Tbf, I'd rather get a "we didn't review your CV" response than a template "we are continuing with other candidates :)" response. It softens the blow considerabl

Tbf, I'd rather get a "we didn't review your CV" response than a template "we are continuing with other candidates :)" response. It softens the blow considerably and helps me as an applicant better keep track on which variation of the CV is working best because I can just remove this datapoint.

yard2010 1y ago
Yes, euphemism is one of the worst diseases of our time. This is gaslighting with fewer steps. It's almost always easier to lie.
motorest 1y ago
> Tbf, I'd rather get a "we didn't review your CV" response than a template "we are continuing with other candidates :)" response. Idk it sounds plausible that OP might just have been late to the party, and applied when the recruitment process was at the final stages.
- pojzon 1y ago
  Its a perpetum mobile. Hiring managers use automation to filter candidates, coz its too many. Candidates see they dont even pass automatic filtering, so they apply with tailored CVs x10. This means even more CVs and more filtering and more CVs and more filtering and more CVs etc etc etc Im curious at which point ppl will understand its counter productive.
  - thatguy0900 1y ago
    Never, because they already know it is but fixing it requires both sides to deescalate in lockstep while individuals on both sides would benefit from not descalating
- hinkley 1y ago
  I had a hiring manager tell me a couple weeks ago that I probably made it further because I applied late. All the people using AI and automation to apply are hitting the apply button early, and the laggards tend to be humans.
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zdragnar 1y ago
Unfortunately, "we didn't review your CV" is a great way to get sued in the US if the name of the applicant is in any way potentially indicative of the applicant's gender, race, religion, or any other protected status.
- lawlessone 1y ago
  I remember applying for a German company for something and they wanted me to submit a professional photo. For an IT role...
  - 1attice 1y ago
    For good or ill -- probably the latter -- headshots are expected with CVs in most of Europe. It's a local custom. Source: I worked in Germany and had to deal with this. (In fact, one of the ways I made my application stand out from other North Americans was to learn this ahead of time and include a headshot in my original application)
    - znpy 1y ago
      Just a datapoint: headshot are not required in Italy. Germany is weird. But then again, that's not news.
- ako 1y ago
  And we now see a lot of proof that that is warranted: lots of people in the US are now openly racist and/or have other prejudices. It is fair to assume many people don’t get a fair chance because of this.
  - zdragnar 1y ago
    The first company I worked for (a smallish business) interviewed a guy who seemed normal and knowledgeable enough in the screener call. At the time, they just asked that people being in code samples to discuss in the second interview (this predated GitHub) and he brought in some obviously copy-pasted code that didn't fit together. He then, without prompt, in the middle of a conversation mentioned that he was the second coming of Christ. The interviewers ignored the comment and continued the interview. When he didn't get the job, he sued the company for religious discrimination. Fortunately, the interviewers could honestly say they didn't discuss or ask about his religious beliefs, and he lost. It was said he did this elsewhere as a a scam, though I never verified it. The simple matter of fact is that it doesn't matter how neutral you are; there are enough people out there who will look for any way to perceive and benefit from a grievance that you must assume they will.

yard2010 1y ago

Yes, euphemism is one of the worst diseases of our time. This is gaslighting with fewer steps. It's almost always easier to lie.

motorest 1y ago

> Tbf, I'd rather get a "we didn't review your CV" response than a template "we are continuing with other candidates :)" response. Idk it sounds plausible that OP might just have been late to the party, and applied when the recruitment process was at the final stages.

pojzon 1y ago
Its a perpetum mobile. Hiring managers use automation to filter candidates, coz its too many. Candidates see they dont even pass automatic filtering, so they apply with tailored CVs x10. This means even more CVs and more filtering and more CVs and more filtering and more CVs etc etc etc Im curious at which point ppl will understand its counter productive.
- thatguy0900 1y ago
  Never, because they already know it is but fixing it requires both sides to deescalate in lockstep while individuals on both sides would benefit from not descalating
hinkley 1y ago
I had a hiring manager tell me a couple weeks ago that I probably made it further because I applied late. All the people using AI and automation to apply are hitting the apply button early, and the laggards tend to be humans.

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zdragnar 1y ago

Unfortunately, "we didn't review your CV" is a great way to get sued in the US if the name of the applicant is in any way potentially indicative of the applicant's gender, race, religion, or any other protected status.

lawlessone 1y ago
I remember applying for a German company for something and they wanted me to submit a professional photo. For an IT role...
- 1attice 1y ago
  For good or ill -- probably the latter -- headshots are expected with CVs in most of Europe. It's a local custom. Source: I worked in Germany and had to deal with this. (In fact, one of the ways I made my application stand out from other North Americans was to learn this ahead of time and include a headshot in my original application)
  - znpy 1y ago
    Just a datapoint: headshot are not required in Italy. Germany is weird. But then again, that's not news.
ako 1y ago
And we now see a lot of proof that that is warranted: lots of people in the US are now openly racist and/or have other prejudices. It is fair to assume many people don’t get a fair chance because of this.
- zdragnar 1y ago
  The first company I worked for (a smallish business) interviewed a guy who seemed normal and knowledgeable enough in the screener call. At the time, they just asked that people being in code samples to discuss in the second interview (this predated GitHub) and he brought in some obviously copy-pasted code that didn't fit together. He then, without prompt, in the middle of a conversation mentioned that he was the second coming of Christ. The interviewers ignored the comment and continued the interview. When he didn't get the job, he sued the company for religious discrimination. Fortunately, the interviewers could honestly say they didn't discuss or ask about his religious beliefs, and he lost. It was said he did this elsewhere as a a scam, though I never verified it. The simple matter of fact is that it doesn't matter how neutral you are; there are enough people out there who will look for any way to perceive and benefit from a grievance that you must assume they will.