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Reminds me of the guy who created Homebrew being rejected by Google for failing some silly Leetcode puzzle.

by physicsguy 1y ago

rkomorn 1y ago
Or the FastAPI creator not having enough years of experience with FastAPI according to a job posting.
- Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
  That is the most absolutely absurd wild damn story that I have written. Care to provide links... How can interviewers be such stupid, the fastapi creator had the MOST experience with it, he created it..
  - RMPR 1y ago
    https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830?lang=en https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830?lang=en
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830 https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830 Edit: note that I wrote "according to a job posting". It's not the same as the situation in the parent comment.
delroth 1y ago
Which is not something that happened, even according to Max Howell himself: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejecting-Max-Howell-the-author-of-Homebrew-for-not-being-able-to-invert-a-binary-tree/answer/Max-Howell?share=100e0bb6&srid=unBJ9 https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejectin... > I feel bad about my tweet, I don’t feel it was fair, and it fed the current era of outragism-driven-reading that is the modern Internet, and thus went viral, and for that I am truly sorry.
- outlore 1y ago
  it kind of happened, he went through seven interviews. from the same post: > But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that.
  - forrestthewoods 1y ago
    The #1 way to not get hired is to be a dick. The brilliant asshole is the most toxic person you can have on your team. Don’t be an asshole.
    - UK-AL 1y ago
      Founders of a lot of companies also tend to be dicks. But seems to do alright. Seems to be a double standard there
    - itsalotoffun 1y ago
      Exactly this. No amount of cred, smarts, and genius that ends with "and I'm a bit of dick" will save you from my automatic red-line veto when hiring. I'm far from alone in this.
      - wiseowise 1y ago
        > will save you from my automatic red-line veto when hiring You're literally a power tripping dick hiding behind "I'm not letting other dicks in" facade.
        itsalotoffun 1y ago
        You've got it backwards friend
      - skeezyboy 1y ago
        umm, linus torvalds, richard stallman, elon musk to name a few
RMPR 1y ago
Iirc the homebrew guy did at least get an interview
wiseowise 1y ago
Homebrew is “just” a package manager, not the core of part of Google. They could rip it out overnight and won’t even notice it. And Google gave him a fair shot. This guy got rejected by some automated system without even interview.
- kunley 1y ago
  So, was he rejected by an automated system or did he go thru seven interviews, as other commenters say?
  - alias_neo 1y ago
    You might have missed the subtle wording; _That_ guy (Howell) got several rounds of interviews, _this_ guy (OP) got rejected by an automated system.
    - kunley 1y ago
      Not the "subtle" but simply, inaccurate wording then
      - alias_neo 1y ago
        Not inaccurate; it's perfectly understandable to a native English speaker, the nuance is subtle, "this guy", "him/that guy", but it is clear and commonly used language. "I just spoke to a guy about X, his opinion was different to the guy I spoke to about it last week. This guy said Y, but that guy insisted it was Z."
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - kaffekaka 1y ago
    GP is talking about two different people. "Him" is the creator of Homebrew. Seven interviews at Google. "This guy" is the creator of enigo (discussed in this thread). Automatic rejection by Anthropic. (Edit: upon page reload i saw the quicker answer.)
siva7 1y ago
This story feels after all the years still awkward. Many people at Google don't have anything that impressive on their resume like being the creator of homebrew. Commentary like "Google looks only for computer scientists, so you need to have studied CS" is so out of touch that i sometimes questions if these people ever worked in a big corporation. There are thousands of different roles, many multiple times suited for that guy. I suspect the people who vetoed didn't like that guy for some other reasons.
cprecioso 1y ago
I was thinking about this the other day. I think it might just be a thing of Google looking for a different thing than what made his open source project famous. Without no knowledge of the details further than mxcl's tweet; probably any performance issues even on simple code, get infinitely multiplied when running at Google's scale, slogging the thing, on Google's dime. From what I've seen of him, mxcl is good at designing a really approachable product, and on running an open source project. But homebrew is really slow, even on the latests Macs, even for basic cases. To me it seems then that he'd be more fit for a product owner/manager position than an engineering one, and that could be the root of his not-hiring.
tacker2000 1y ago
This guy is so full of himself, no wonder he didnt get hired. Just read the homebrew github issues / forum and you will see what i mean…

Reminds me of the guy who created Homebrew being rejected by Google for failing some silly Leetcode puzzle.

rkomorn 1y ago

Or the FastAPI creator not having enough years of experience with FastAPI according to a job posting.

Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
That is the most absolutely absurd wild damn story that I have written. Care to provide links... How can interviewers be such stupid, the fastapi creator had the MOST experience with it, he created it..
- RMPR 1y ago
  https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830?lang=en https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830?lang=en
- rkomorn 1y ago
  https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830 https://x.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830 Edit: note that I wrote "according to a job posting". It's not the same as the situation in the parent comment.

delroth 1y ago

Which is not something that happened, even according to Max Howell himself: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejecting-Max-Howell-the-author-of-Homebrew-for-not-being-able-to-invert-a-binary-tree/answer/Max-Howell?share=100e0bb6&srid=unBJ9 https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejectin... > I feel bad about my tweet, I don’t feel it was fair, and it fed the current era of outragism-driven-reading that is the modern Internet, and thus went viral, and for that I am truly sorry.

outlore 1y ago
it kind of happened, he went through seven interviews. from the same post: > But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that.
- forrestthewoods 1y ago
  The #1 way to not get hired is to be a dick. The brilliant asshole is the most toxic person you can have on your team. Don’t be an asshole.
  - UK-AL 1y ago
    Founders of a lot of companies also tend to be dicks. But seems to do alright. Seems to be a double standard there
  - itsalotoffun 1y ago
    Exactly this. No amount of cred, smarts, and genius that ends with "and I'm a bit of dick" will save you from my automatic red-line veto when hiring. I'm far from alone in this.
    - wiseowise 1y ago
      > will save you from my automatic red-line veto when hiring You're literally a power tripping dick hiding behind "I'm not letting other dicks in" facade.
      - itsalotoffun 1y ago
        You've got it backwards friend
    - skeezyboy 1y ago
      umm, linus torvalds, richard stallman, elon musk to name a few

RMPR 1y ago

Iirc the homebrew guy did at least get an interview

wiseowise 1y ago

Homebrew is “just” a package manager, not the core of part of Google. They could rip it out overnight and won’t even notice it. And Google gave him a fair shot. This guy got rejected by some automated system without even interview.

kunley 1y ago
So, was he rejected by an automated system or did he go thru seven interviews, as other commenters say?
- alias_neo 1y ago
  You might have missed the subtle wording; _That_ guy (Howell) got several rounds of interviews, _this_ guy (OP) got rejected by an automated system.
  - kunley 1y ago
    Not the "subtle" but simply, inaccurate wording then
    - alias_neo 1y ago
      Not inaccurate; it's perfectly understandable to a native English speaker, the nuance is subtle, "this guy", "him/that guy", but it is clear and commonly used language. "I just spoke to a guy about X, his opinion was different to the guy I spoke to about it last week. This guy said Y, but that guy insisted it was Z."
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- kaffekaka 1y ago
  GP is talking about two different people. "Him" is the creator of Homebrew. Seven interviews at Google. "This guy" is the creator of enigo (discussed in this thread). Automatic rejection by Anthropic. (Edit: upon page reload i saw the quicker answer.)

siva7 1y ago

This story feels after all the years still awkward. Many people at Google don't have anything that impressive on their resume like being the creator of homebrew. Commentary like "Google looks only for computer scientists, so you need to have studied CS" is so out of touch that i sometimes questions if these people ever worked in a big corporation. There are thousands of different roles, many multiple times suited for that guy. I suspect the people who vetoed didn't like that guy for some other reasons.

cprecioso 1y ago

I was thinking about this the other day. I think it might just be a thing of Google looking for a different thing than what made his open source project famous. Without no knowledge of the details further than mxcl's tweet; probably any performance issues even on simple code, get infinitely multiplied when running at Google's scale, slogging the thing, on Google's dime. From what I've seen of him, mxcl is good at designing a really approachable product, and on running an open source project. But homebrew is really slow, even on the latests Macs, even for basic cases. To me it seems then that he'd be more fit for a product owner/manager position than an engineering one, and that could be the root of his not-hiring.

tacker2000 1y ago

This guy is so full of himself, no wonder he didnt get hired. Just read the homebrew github issues / forum and you will see what i mean…