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The skepticism people have towards metabolic dysregulation models of obesity is too much. We know for a fact the inverse happens: girl starves herself for year
by mbac32768 1y ago
The skepticism people have towards metabolic dysregulation models of obesity is too much.
We know for a fact the inverse happens: girl starves herself for years to slim down to become a ballerina, eventually decides it's not worth it and tries to stop being so dangerously thin and... can't. She never feels hungry. Every time she eats she can only stomach a few bites before pushing it away. Just eat ice cream? Instant puke. She cannot gain weight no matter what.
Obviously she broke her metabolic system and she obviously did it through diet.
Yes it's possible for some skinny people to gain weight. But that doesn't mean every skinny person simply can decide to be fat just by eating. It's like climbing Mount Everest for some skinny people to put weight on, even if they really desperately want to.
I don't think the situation with obese people is all that different.
- aianus 1y agoIs there a drug I can take to gain weight?
- beAbU 1y agoIce cream and cheese
- tortilla 1y agomj
- astrange 1y agoFun fact: eating a bunch of black pepper cancels that out.
- ggsp 1y ago[flagged]
- astrange 1y agoI meant it cancels out the effect of THC. Which is handy if you've taken an edible and are getting tired of it. But yes, that too.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> when fed into an LLM, gave me the following information (edited for brevity and clarity). Please note that I did not verify any of the LLM's claims Please don’t do this.
- eru 1y agoWhat's mj?
- tortilla 1y agoSorry was lazy with the typing last night. mary jane, marijuana, wacky-tobacky, pot, weed...
- andsoitis 1y agoWeight from muscle? Or from fat?
- aorloff 1y agoIts called sugar
- ducksinhats 1y agoI don't want you to consider it among the flippant replies here but definitely alcohol will work up to a point, it's somewhat of a contradiction though because severe alcoholics are usually quite malnourished and thin.
- eru 1y agoAlcohol itself has a lot of calories. Or does it cause even more appetite in addition?
- throwup238 1y agoAntipsychotics tend to do the trick.
- jstummbillig 1y agoGaining weight works by putting more fuel into your body than you use. That's physically the only way, there is no way to synthesize energy. Because of caloric density limits, there is no substitute for putting a certain amount of stuff in your body. A pill can physically not contain enough calories. There are options around that, but that depends on what's driving your personal energy deficit. What's the job that the weight gain intervention needs to do for you, that whatever you try to eat right now does not? What's motivating your current diet? Are you for example disgusted by swallowing anything at all? Are you more partial to liquids than whole foods? Do you dislike sugar in particular?
- eru 1y ago> A pill can physically not contain enough calories. No, but a pill can make you want to eat more or fidget less etc.
- zosima 1y agoYou have so much choice: For the pure fat experience I suggest corticosteroids, lithium or a random antipsychotic. Insulin is also very useful here, but a tad dangerous. If it has to be muscle mass, then anabolic steroids of course are preferable. But beta adrenergic agonists like clenbuterol also seem to have some effect. And there are many more.
- DontchaKnowit 1y agoCorticosteroids are also pretty damn dangerous
- zosima 1y agoThey all have uncomfortable side effects, especially the fatty-inducing ones. But insulin stands out for being able to kill you very quickly from a moderate overdose.
- DontchaKnowit 1y agoWell corticosteroid withdrawal will kill you also, or ruin your life if you fuck up and dont taper off quick enough.
- astura 1y agoSteroids and antipsychotics usually cause massive weight gain.
- primenum 1y agoI didn't buy into the whole metabolic health thing -- I thought a calorie was a calorie. But as a person who couldn't lose weight for years due to insulin resistance, just a single daily dose of metformin enables me to lose weight. I was advised to take either that or a miniscule dose of a GLP-1 agonist.
- freehorse 1y agoThis concept would be hard to grasp for me if I did not know personally a person facing such issue. I don't think most people can understand that "just eat more" does not work in such cases, because most people can eat just fine even if not really hungry.
- Llamamoe 1y ago> because most people can eat just fine even if not really hungry. I literally cannot imagine how this is possible. Don't you feel full? Doesn't your body start refusing to swallow? Doesn't the food turn tasteless and start making you nauseous? 100-200kcal over your BMR, sure, but beyond that?
- eru 1y agoLook at approximately any thanksgiving dinner in the US? Throughout history, occasional lavish feasts have been very common in nearly every culture.
- zarzavat 1y agoHunger and satiation are two different neural pathways. Hunger is low blood sugar. Satiation is stretching of the stomach. You can still eat even with normal blood sugar if your stomach isn't full.
- potato3732842 1y agoWhich is a large part of why weight loss diet advice usually included a bunch of stuff about stuffing your face with iceberg lettuce and other high volume low calorie foods. It makes you feel satiated sooner.
- ghc 1y agoNo, those are symptoms of an eating disorder.
- bootsmann 1y agoAs someone in the same boat, what worked for me is to replace ingredients with higher calorie versions. A significant one is replacing milk in recipes (polenta, mashed potatoes etc.) with heavy cream, this provides a good 500 calories boost on the same portion of food. Also adding sugar here and there to recipes that allow it without ruining taste.
- eru 1y ago> Obviously she broke her metabolic system and she obviously did it through diet. It sounds 'obvious', but I don't think it's obvious that she did it through diet.
- boredhedgehog 1y ago> Obviously she broke her metabolic system and she obviously did it through diet. No, she picked up a mental behavioral disorder that has nothing to do with her metabolism.