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This music sounds like the visual equivalent of one of those motion settings on a tv that cause the "Soap Opera Effect". I'm wondering if the LLM is failing to

This music sounds like the visual equivalent of one of those motion settings on a tv that cause the "Soap Opera Effect". I'm wondering if the LLM is failing to emulate the odd and even harmonics of real recordings and that's why it seems so unnatural. It makes me feel sick. It's different than the sterile straight to digital recordings of the late 80s early 90s too. Do any of these let people download the individual track stems? I'd be curious if taking all the stems and running them through analog hardware would remedy it. The LLM needs a producer.

jefftk 1y ago
> I'm wondering if the LLM is failing to emulate the odd and even harmonics of real recordings What do you mean? If you screw up even/odd harmonics it will sound far less natural, like confusing flutes and clarinets.
- CompoundEyes 1y ago
  I meant as an example if someone is singing, holding a long note and their voice is producing a lot of even harmonic overtones but every few cycles that overtone changes randomly flips or disappears. Sonically disoriented.
neom 1y ago
Suno lets you download the stems, also no affiliation at all just really like the tool and have spent a lot of time with it: Suno is night and day better than this product, by a mile. https://soundcloud.com/charlielabs/charlie https://soundcloud.com/charlielabs/charlie (everything on this account I made with Suno, sometimes through Abelton if I'm not feeling lazy)
- CompoundEyes 1y ago
  Nice. Charlie is the hero we’ve been holding out for. You’re cutting the stems up in Ableton and mixing with additional effects and processing? I don’t have a stance on making music with it will try out stems soon. Awhile back I gave o3 the strudel repl documentation and had it generate some really interesting experiments.
  - neom 1y ago
    Honestly no, I downloaded the stems but never used them - their fine grain editor in the pro mode is... insanely good, I feel like I'm a secret shill here pawning for Suno but I'm 100% not - their editor really is magic when it works (about 75% of the time) - I use Abelton for just my regular post mix down i've done for years on all the stuff I make, so I basically just master there at this point.

jefftk 1y ago

> I'm wondering if the LLM is failing to emulate the odd and even harmonics of real recordings What do you mean? If you screw up even/odd harmonics it will sound far less natural, like confusing flutes and clarinets.

CompoundEyes 1y ago
I meant as an example if someone is singing, holding a long note and their voice is producing a lot of even harmonic overtones but every few cycles that overtone changes randomly flips or disappears. Sonically disoriented.

neom 1y ago

Suno lets you download the stems, also no affiliation at all just really like the tool and have spent a lot of time with it: Suno is night and day better than this product, by a mile. https://soundcloud.com/charlielabs/charlie https://soundcloud.com/charlielabs/charlie (everything on this account I made with Suno, sometimes through Abelton if I'm not feeling lazy)

CompoundEyes 1y ago
Nice. Charlie is the hero we’ve been holding out for. You’re cutting the stems up in Ableton and mixing with additional effects and processing? I don’t have a stance on making music with it will try out stems soon. Awhile back I gave o3 the strudel repl documentation and had it generate some really interesting experiments.
- neom 1y ago
  Honestly no, I downloaded the stems but never used them - their fine grain editor in the pro mode is... insanely good, I feel like I'm a secret shill here pawning for Suno but I'm 100% not - their editor really is magic when it works (about 75% of the time) - I use Abelton for just my regular post mix down i've done for years on all the stuff I make, so I basically just master there at this point.