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Have it pass the same set of tests as any other medical device. Programmers and startup owners constantly claim their 2 weeks product will save the world, but

by watwut 1y ago

Have it pass the same set of tests as any other medical device. Programmers and startup owners constantly claim their 2 weeks product will save the world, but must the time it does not. It is fine when talking about household light management, but half baked ai therapist is as much quack as any human fraudster. Only difference is that human fraudsters can be prosecuted, but companies and startups demand themselves to be above the law.

SilverElfin 1y ago
But why should things be locked down in the first place? Why do I need to go through doctors and insurance and all of this for simple diagnostic tests and the obvious prescriptions that are necessary? It’s so frustrating. Especially to do it repeatedly every so many months. My point is we are currently already in a state of regulatory capture. And with this new era of technology, we need to abandon that. Maybe not fully. But for many things.
- watwut 1y ago
  Yeah, no, completely deregulated medical device and prescriptions market would be disaster. > And with this new era of technology Our current era of technology is allowing us to generate automated bull-shitters. Which is fine for some applications, but not for the ones where people can be actually harmed. Nothing about our current era generates trustworthy systems. And both our business leaders and culture of elite technical people is the one where being sociopathic is an advantage. We created this world, but we do not have to pretend it is somehow meant to be helpful.
cestith 1y ago
This article isn’t about AI acting as a medical device. It’s about it acting as a mental health practitioner. If you’re going to have it pass tests, those should be graduation requirements, clinical training, and licensing exams.
- watwut 1y ago
  > This article isn’t about AI acting as a medical device. It’s about it acting as a mental health practitioner. Which makes it medical device. > If you’re going to have it pass tests, those should be graduation requirements, clinical training, and licensing exams. And obviously also loss of practice if they break ethical norms or if there is other issue with that.

by watwut 1y ago

SilverElfin 1y ago

But why should things be locked down in the first place? Why do I need to go through doctors and insurance and all of this for simple diagnostic tests and the obvious prescriptions that are necessary? It’s so frustrating. Especially to do it repeatedly every so many months. My point is we are currently already in a state of regulatory capture. And with this new era of technology, we need to abandon that. Maybe not fully. But for many things.

watwut 1y ago
Yeah, no, completely deregulated medical device and prescriptions market would be disaster. > And with this new era of technology Our current era of technology is allowing us to generate automated bull-shitters. Which is fine for some applications, but not for the ones where people can be actually harmed. Nothing about our current era generates trustworthy systems. And both our business leaders and culture of elite technical people is the one where being sociopathic is an advantage. We created this world, but we do not have to pretend it is somehow meant to be helpful.

cestith 1y ago

This article isn’t about AI acting as a medical device. It’s about it acting as a mental health practitioner. If you’re going to have it pass tests, those should be graduation requirements, clinical training, and licensing exams.

watwut 1y ago
> This article isn’t about AI acting as a medical device. It’s about it acting as a mental health practitioner. Which makes it medical device. > If you’re going to have it pass tests, those should be graduation requirements, clinical training, and licensing exams. And obviously also loss of practice if they break ethical norms or if there is other issue with that.