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I'm starting to think that the most effective form of protest might be to make it clear to the billionaires that we know about their bunkers and they won't be s

I'm starting to think that the most effective form of protest might be to make it clear to the billionaires that we know about their bunkers and they won't be safe in them following a climate cataclysm.

assword 1y ago
Those bunkers are already defended. Think of them less as a schizo bug-out bunker and more of the castles of the new feudalism. Their purpose is solely to protect the land/the lord from people with ideas such as yours following the collapse of the empire.
- xg15 1y ago
  Even castles have been stormed.
  - hungmung 1y ago
    Salt the land and wait for the rations to run out.
    - jjk166 1y ago
      The billionaire with a doomsday bunker probably has enough rations to outlast you. It's best not to wait until the doomsday bunker stage to do something about the situation.
      - Ancalagon 1y ago
        best bring out the bunker busters then
        pavel_lishin 1y ago
        You have a lot of those in the back of the garage, do you?
      - K0balt 1y ago
        Breathing is nice.
      - burnt-resistor 1y ago
        That's true. However, the smarter(esque) billionaires built their doomsday prepper bunkers in NZ, AU, Hawaii, and probably elsewhere secret and far away from most civilization they want to avoid.
  - jjk166 1y ago
    By large armies of trained soldiers who invariably suffered disproportionate casualties. Fortifications are very effective for this specific application.
    - K0balt 1y ago
      Dozers would be very easy to armor up and teleoperate. Send 10 just for good measure. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
yongjik 1y ago
Yet, when Al Gore created _An Inconvenient Truth_ back in 2006 everybody was ready to mock his private jet. I think billionaires are a distraction. MAGA had no problem talking about "coastal liberals" with their billionaire connections and how they're going to "drain the swamp," and look where it led us.
- ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
  Distraction from what?
  - yongjik 1y ago
    Distraction from the fact that there's not going to be a perfect solution that solves the climate without inconveniencing us "common folks." By advocating for a perfect solution that sticks it to the bad guys, one can put off talking about concrete, actionable plans. Very convenient.
  - eagleal 1y ago
    Not one of OPs, but it's become common knowledge these days that a real class war has been ongoing for decades, with the final blow likely delivered by Thatcher and Reagan. The social contract, between the effective ruling and representative classes and the populations they are supposed to serve, seems to have been completely broken. So you could say everything not pivoting to this point is basically a distraction.
jefurii 1y ago
I wonder how the billionaires are going to prevent their security staff from dispatching them and living in the bunkers themselves.
- K0balt 1y ago
  It’s a pretty tough incentive alignment issue. You need the families of the guards to live in the bunker… but then , why wouldn’t one of them just take over?

assword 1y ago

Those bunkers are already defended. Think of them less as a schizo bug-out bunker and more of the castles of the new feudalism. Their purpose is solely to protect the land/the lord from people with ideas such as yours following the collapse of the empire.

xg15 1y ago
Even castles have been stormed.
- hungmung 1y ago
  Salt the land and wait for the rations to run out.
  - jjk166 1y ago
    The billionaire with a doomsday bunker probably has enough rations to outlast you. It's best not to wait until the doomsday bunker stage to do something about the situation.
    - Ancalagon 1y ago
      best bring out the bunker busters then
      - pavel_lishin 1y ago
        You have a lot of those in the back of the garage, do you?
    - K0balt 1y ago
      Breathing is nice.
    - burnt-resistor 1y ago
      That's true. However, the smarter(esque) billionaires built their doomsday prepper bunkers in NZ, AU, Hawaii, and probably elsewhere secret and far away from most civilization they want to avoid.
- jjk166 1y ago
  By large armies of trained soldiers who invariably suffered disproportionate casualties. Fortifications are very effective for this specific application.
  - K0balt 1y ago
    Dozers would be very easy to armor up and teleoperate. Send 10 just for good measure. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

yongjik 1y ago

Yet, when Al Gore created _An Inconvenient Truth_ back in 2006 everybody was ready to mock his private jet. I think billionaires are a distraction. MAGA had no problem talking about "coastal liberals" with their billionaire connections and how they're going to "drain the swamp," and look where it led us.

ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
Distraction from what?
- yongjik 1y ago
  Distraction from the fact that there's not going to be a perfect solution that solves the climate without inconveniencing us "common folks." By advocating for a perfect solution that sticks it to the bad guys, one can put off talking about concrete, actionable plans. Very convenient.
- eagleal 1y ago
  Not one of OPs, but it's become common knowledge these days that a real class war has been ongoing for decades, with the final blow likely delivered by Thatcher and Reagan. The social contract, between the effective ruling and representative classes and the populations they are supposed to serve, seems to have been completely broken. So you could say everything not pivoting to this point is basically a distraction.

jefurii 1y ago

I wonder how the billionaires are going to prevent their security staff from dispatching them and living in the bunkers themselves.

K0balt 1y ago
It’s a pretty tough incentive alignment issue. You need the families of the guards to live in the bunker… but then , why wouldn’t one of them just take over?