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That Mellon tip is one part of today's supply. The other is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44783815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44783815 So the

That Mellon tip is one part of today's supply. The other is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44783815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44783815 So the question of the day is: how does all this relate to "Reindustrialization as the forlorn hope of a Narcissistic Culture"? (That basically grew up from John Adams' "I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy … in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music.") 9rx didn't have foreign talent in his list of ingredients, but I'd argue they w/don't do anything to improve the pipeline either. If you "psychoanalyze" the Chinese devs at OpenAI, -- or the nonItalian uh Caucasoids at Anthropic-- their role in "Innovation" is the same as Jews' in... 1965? Jeeves for the politicians, mathematicians & fine artists.. don't you as a HNer remark upon the choice of "poetry" over "prose"!

PaulHoule 1y ago
What I think is funny is that everybody wants to create manufacturing jobs today but prior to deindustrialization people seemed to think factory jobs were the worst, see https://genius.com/The-kinks-working-at-the-factory-lyrics https://genius.com/The-kinks-working-at-the-factory-lyrics Germany in the Altes Reich had a rigid system of noble status where you were a landowner (solar economy) or nothing. They were quite shocked to find that all of a sudden you had status because you were a doctor or a lawyer or a scientist or a businessmen and that the people who were in these positions were people who were excluded from the old systems. I think Chinese people have idealized education for a really long time (it is not enough to be a warrior, you have to be a warrior and a scholar) but yeah, the "100 years of humiliation" adds to the pressure. Other ethnic groups come to different conclusions as many blacks would say "they won't let you do anything with that degree"

PaulHoule 1y ago

What I think is funny is that everybody wants to create manufacturing jobs today but prior to deindustrialization people seemed to think factory jobs were the worst, see https://genius.com/The-kinks-working-at-the-factory-lyrics https://genius.com/The-kinks-working-at-the-factory-lyrics Germany in the Altes Reich had a rigid system of noble status where you were a landowner (solar economy) or nothing. They were quite shocked to find that all of a sudden you had status because you were a doctor or a lawyer or a scientist or a businessmen and that the people who were in these positions were people who were excluded from the old systems. I think Chinese people have idealized education for a really long time (it is not enough to be a warrior, you have to be a warrior and a scholar) but yeah, the "100 years of humiliation" adds to the pressure. Other ethnic groups come to different conclusions as many blacks would say "they won't let you do anything with that degree"