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Believing israel has a right to exist is the definition of Zionism. This woman is not anti-Semitic, she speaks up, correctly, against Israel's many crimes.

b112 1y ago
If that's your definition, then effectively the entire planet is zionist, including almost all Arab states, and even the PLO. Are you asserting that Egypt is zionist? The Palatinian Liberation Organization? All of there states have said that Israel has a right to exist. Passed resolutions. If so, then what value has the word? Zionism has changed over time. Israel exists, is going no where, and only weirdos think Israel should vanish. However many will espouse an end to zionism today, which typically and effectively means no more expansion into modern Palastine, and a 2 state solution.
- laimewhisps 1y ago
  That is the definition of Zionism. The majority of the world's population is not Zionist and does not support the state of Israel. The governments are a different story. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Zionism https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Zionism
  - b112 1y ago
    Modern Israel has existed for more than a century now. Longer than Palestine as a place, after the Ottomon empire fell. Both peoples have existed in the Middle East, and in that area for thousands of years. I find few people that think Israel shouldn't exist. Do you have any sort of surveys, indicating that most people on the planet think Israel should bot exist? It's a very weird assertion.
    - bigyabai 1y ago
      There are currently Israeli lawmakers calling for crippling sanctions against Israel, as well as Israeli citizens protesting in the streets of Tel Aviv. At this point it's not entirely clear if the Israelis want Israel to exist under Netanyahu's leadership.
      - dlubarov 1y ago
        You mean the letter to the Guardian [1]? There were two former lawmakers who signed it, no current ones. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/the-starvation-of-gaza-is-shameful-crippling-sanctions-on-israel-are-needed https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/the-starvation...
    - quantified 1y ago
      Modern Israel came into existence in 1947-1948.
  - znpy 1y ago
    > The majority of the world's population is not Zionist and does not support the state of Israel. On what evidence is this claim based on?

b112 1y ago

If that's your definition, then effectively the entire planet is zionist, including almost all Arab states, and even the PLO. Are you asserting that Egypt is zionist? The Palatinian Liberation Organization? All of there states have said that Israel has a right to exist. Passed resolutions. If so, then what value has the word? Zionism has changed over time. Israel exists, is going no where, and only weirdos think Israel should vanish. However many will espouse an end to zionism today, which typically and effectively means no more expansion into modern Palastine, and a 2 state solution.

laimewhisps 1y ago
That is the definition of Zionism. The majority of the world's population is not Zionist and does not support the state of Israel. The governments are a different story. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Zionism https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Zionism
- b112 1y ago
  Modern Israel has existed for more than a century now. Longer than Palestine as a place, after the Ottomon empire fell. Both peoples have existed in the Middle East, and in that area for thousands of years. I find few people that think Israel shouldn't exist. Do you have any sort of surveys, indicating that most people on the planet think Israel should bot exist? It's a very weird assertion.
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    There are currently Israeli lawmakers calling for crippling sanctions against Israel, as well as Israeli citizens protesting in the streets of Tel Aviv. At this point it's not entirely clear if the Israelis want Israel to exist under Netanyahu's leadership.
    - dlubarov 1y ago
      You mean the letter to the Guardian [1]? There were two former lawmakers who signed it, no current ones. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/the-starvation-of-gaza-is-shameful-crippling-sanctions-on-israel-are-needed https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/the-starvation...
  - quantified 1y ago
    Modern Israel came into existence in 1947-1948.
- znpy 1y ago
  > The majority of the world's population is not Zionist and does not support the state of Israel. On what evidence is this claim based on?