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Yeah, the article is nonsense. The linked chart is still intersting though. I'm surprised that the Galaxy S2 is still #3 on T-Mobile.

nirvana 14y ago
The chart is derived from nonsense too. The article is sourced from an "Analyst". Analyst is a fancy title for a pundit who is paid to have an opinion by some industry figure. In this case, most likely Samsung. These analysts post "reports" that show the company is winning, and the company uses those reports to try and drum up sales. Meanwhile the "analysts" send press releases to blogs who then report the results as if they were fact like this. It is usually only years later (if ever) that the real results come out. Only Apple reports its iPhone unit sales. Samsung, for instance, does not. It wasn't until the lawsuit with Apple that they were forced to give up these numbers, and they were very anemic. (while at the time "analysts" were saying they were kicking butt.) This is just hype being spread by a blog that is trying to make it look like android is "winning". None of the android makers report real sales numbers, including Amazon (so we don't know how many fires have been sold, whether it is a success or not.)
- vitriolix 14y ago
  Keep telling yourself that. Yes, the industry plays number games, but when the multiple different indicators from many different analysts and direct numbers from retailers and actual usage numbers all point in the same direction, you can go ahead and call the trend.
  - tobylane 14y ago
    The trend of many people with a deep vested interest is to lie?
    - astrodust 14y ago
      It would explain why Jim Cramer is so consistently wrong.
Steko 14y ago
I don't find the lede here unreasonable. However a couple of nitpicks: The linked chart and article both imply these are only for sales at carrier stores. i.e. not including Apple Store sales which are significant and Samsung has no equivalent for. Accurately weighting ranked charts with no numbers attached can be unreliable. Further the people on commission at carrier stores have an incentive in promoting devices that put more money in their pockets, making verbal sources like this even less reliable.

nirvana 14y ago

The chart is derived from nonsense too. The article is sourced from an "Analyst". Analyst is a fancy title for a pundit who is paid to have an opinion by some industry figure. In this case, most likely Samsung. These analysts post "reports" that show the company is winning, and the company uses those reports to try and drum up sales. Meanwhile the "analysts" send press releases to blogs who then report the results as if they were fact like this. It is usually only years later (if ever) that the real results come out. Only Apple reports its iPhone unit sales. Samsung, for instance, does not. It wasn't until the lawsuit with Apple that they were forced to give up these numbers, and they were very anemic. (while at the time "analysts" were saying they were kicking butt.) This is just hype being spread by a blog that is trying to make it look like android is "winning". None of the android makers report real sales numbers, including Amazon (so we don't know how many fires have been sold, whether it is a success or not.)

vitriolix 14y ago
Keep telling yourself that. Yes, the industry plays number games, but when the multiple different indicators from many different analysts and direct numbers from retailers and actual usage numbers all point in the same direction, you can go ahead and call the trend.
- tobylane 14y ago
  The trend of many people with a deep vested interest is to lie?
  - astrodust 14y ago
    It would explain why Jim Cramer is so consistently wrong.

Steko 14y ago

I don't find the lede here unreasonable. However a couple of nitpicks: The linked chart and article both imply these are only for sales at carrier stores. i.e. not including Apple Store sales which are significant and Samsung has no equivalent for. Accurately weighting ranked charts with no numbers attached can be unreliable. Further the people on commission at carrier stores have an incentive in promoting devices that put more money in their pockets, making verbal sources like this even less reliable.