> Now that it’s become impossible to pretend that a fœtus is anything other than a separate human, the debate has become about whether it’s a justified homicide

> Now that it’s become impossible to pretend that a fœtus is anything other than a separate human, the debate has become about whether it’s a justified homicide or not. This is a very theocratic answer. I know zero people who regard a fetus as "a separate human". Last time I did, it was the 90s and I was in a Catholic secondary school in the UK. Since then, even famously-Catholic Ireland has liberalised their abortion laws. That one can also make an argument that says "it doesn't even matter if you think they're a separate human or not, we don't force people do donate kidneys and that has the same risk as a pregnancy", doesn't change the fact that even thinking a foetus is a person is primarily a religious position at this point.