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I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical. Too much vertical space makes your neck tired.

by f311a 1y ago

ivanbakel 1y ago
> I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical. Is this your own experience? I’ve personally rarely suffered for horizontal space, but very often for a bit more vertical space, especially with web-browsing now being so vertically cluttered. I think many workflows are top-to-bottom in a way that benefits from more vertical space to keep it all in view - though development is probably exceptionally well-suited. My current setup (cribbed from an ex-colleague) is two vertical screens side-by-side, and I miss it whenever I’m working with a horizontal display.
- f311a 1y ago
  Yeah, it's my own experience. I'm so used to horizontal splits in the terminal and editor. I can't imagine using vertical splits for code.
  - ivanbakel 1y ago
    I don’t exclusively use vertical splits - often I opt for a four-corner split if I need more than 2 panes at a time. But your avoidance of vertical splits likely comes for the same reasons I have a rotated screen - shrinking the vertical space in a buffer by any amount on a horizontal display quickly hits some kind of ergonomic limit where you just can’t see enough of the file at a time. I find that not only splits, but also console output, search results , etc. take up too much vertical space.
nicoburns 1y ago
I miss vertical space a lot when browsing websites on a small screen. There is: - The OS toolbar - The browser tab and url bar - often: A fixed website header - sometimes: A fixed website footer Sometimes I'm left with only ~600px of vertical content space. Which isn't much for reading content, much less for skimming it or getting an overview.
- fsflover 1y ago
  > The browser tab You can have vertical tabs in Firefox without any plugins now.
- f311a 1y ago
  On my laptop, I have tabs on the left, and the status bar and dock are hidden unless I need to see them. Regarding headers, in my browser, I have a built-in option to disable sticky headers. I don't remember any sticky footers.
- prmoustache 1y ago
  1 and 2 are easily solved by pressing F11. Are website header and footer that common nowadays? I tend to think it is more a thing from the past nowadays.
whizzter 1y ago
In the past I've agreed but this setup might just hit a sweet-spot, sitting at home the laptop is usually on a table and you keep looking downwards. Just tried setting up my USB-screen above my laptop and got pleasantly surprised by how I can look straight on the upper one. Basically, upper part of this roll-up becomes a good "main-screen" and you can still have an auxillary lower part for extra stuff.

I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical. Too much vertical space makes your neck tired.

by f311a 1y ago

I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical. Too much vertical space makes your neck tired.

> I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical. Is this your own experience? I’ve personally rarely suffered for horizontal space, but very often for a bit more vertical space, especially with web-browsing now being so vertically cluttered. I think many workflows are top-to-bottom in a way that benefits from more vertical space to keep it all in view - though development is probably exceptionally well-suited. My current setup (cribbed from an ex-colleague) is two vertical screens side-by-side, and I miss it whenever I’m working with a horizontal display.

f311a 1y ago
Yeah, it's my own experience. I'm so used to horizontal splits in the terminal and editor. I can't imagine using vertical splits for code.
- ivanbakel 1y ago
  I don’t exclusively use vertical splits - often I opt for a four-corner split if I need more than 2 panes at a time. But your avoidance of vertical splits likely comes for the same reasons I have a rotated screen - shrinking the vertical space in a buffer by any amount on a horizontal display quickly hits some kind of ergonomic limit where you just can’t see enough of the file at a time. I find that not only splits, but also console output, search results , etc. take up too much vertical space.

nicoburns 1y ago

I miss vertical space a lot when browsing websites on a small screen. There is: - The OS toolbar - The browser tab and url bar - often: A fixed website header - sometimes: A fixed website footer Sometimes I'm left with only ~600px of vertical content space. Which isn't much for reading content, much less for skimming it or getting an overview.

fsflover 1y ago
> The browser tab You can have vertical tabs in Firefox without any plugins now.
f311a 1y ago
On my laptop, I have tabs on the left, and the status bar and dock are hidden unless I need to see them. Regarding headers, in my browser, I have a built-in option to disable sticky headers. I don't remember any sticky footers.
prmoustache 1y ago
1 and 2 are easily solved by pressing F11. Are website header and footer that common nowadays? I tend to think it is more a thing from the past nowadays.

whizzter 1y ago

In the past I've agreed but this setup might just hit a sweet-spot, sitting at home the laptop is usually on a table and you keep looking downwards. Just tried setting up my USB-screen above my laptop and got pleasantly surprised by how I can look straight on the upper one. Basically, upper part of this roll-up becomes a good "main-screen" and you can still have an auxillary lower part for extra stuff.