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So, my son just graduated at the start of the summer with a dual degree in Math and Computer Science. He would like to find an entry level job in software engin

by mcherm 1y ago

So, my son just graduated at the start of the summer with a dual degree in Math and Computer Science. He would like to find an entry level job in software engineering. Does anyone have any advice to give him?

apwell23 1y ago
try places like salt lake city, Charlotte NC
anotherhue 1y ago
Rapidly pivot to AI engineering
- Gigachad 1y ago
  Chasing rapidly evolving trends is rarely the best bet. The people who pivoted to NFTs and Web3 wouldn’t have succeeded unless they built general tech knowledge along the way.
  - physicsguy 1y ago
    I also have seen quite a few NFT/crypto people coming out bruised and struggling to find a new role because of the association. A guy I work with was like that.
Rover222 1y ago
build personal projects incorporating AI (custom mcp servers, LLM integrations, etc), and reach out to people directly on LinkedIn who might be hiring.
trebligdivad 1y ago
Look for startups connected to the university he graduated from.
armitron 1y ago
Unless he ticks two or (ideally) more of the following: - graduated summa cum laude - from a top university (MIT, Stanford, CMU, Cornell, Berkeley) - lives and breathes tech, writes code for fun in his personal time, iron-clad determination to succeed - has strong personal projects that show off his top-notch technical skills he should seriously consider doing something else. The tech field is pretty much over for new grads and it's going to get harder and harder.
antonymoose 1y ago
Look for Federal contracting firms, they’re much less picky and a job is a job at the end of the day. Of course this will likely require relocation, abstaining from drugs and other touchy things. Most all of my unemployed friends post-graduation, those C’s get degrees kids, those who just couldn’t find an internship, that’s where they ended up, working for Booz Allen Hamilton or CACI or SRC.
Vitamin_Sushi 1y ago
n=1, but I graduated with a not so hot GPA so going into the market just before covid wasn't fun. Ended up doing "contracting" (still had a W2) with a really nice agency to get my foot in the proverbial door and eventually started working full-time as a software engineer, albeit in more of a support role. Working as a contractor wasn't too glamorous though (I could definitely say the same about the pay) as it was mostly writing and running automated test, but figured I had to start somewhere. Is he going to start working FAANG making $300k? It'd be nice if he does, but it's best to keep expectations in check.

by mcherm 1y ago

apwell23 1y ago

try places like salt lake city, Charlotte NC

anotherhue 1y ago

Rapidly pivot to AI engineering

Gigachad 1y ago
Chasing rapidly evolving trends is rarely the best bet. The people who pivoted to NFTs and Web3 wouldn’t have succeeded unless they built general tech knowledge along the way.
- physicsguy 1y ago
  I also have seen quite a few NFT/crypto people coming out bruised and struggling to find a new role because of the association. A guy I work with was like that.

Rover222 1y ago

build personal projects incorporating AI (custom mcp servers, LLM integrations, etc), and reach out to people directly on LinkedIn who might be hiring.

trebligdivad 1y ago

Look for startups connected to the university he graduated from.

armitron 1y ago

Unless he ticks two or (ideally) more of the following: - graduated summa cum laude - from a top university (MIT, Stanford, CMU, Cornell, Berkeley) - lives and breathes tech, writes code for fun in his personal time, iron-clad determination to succeed - has strong personal projects that show off his top-notch technical skills he should seriously consider doing something else. The tech field is pretty much over for new grads and it's going to get harder and harder.

antonymoose 1y ago

Look for Federal contracting firms, they’re much less picky and a job is a job at the end of the day. Of course this will likely require relocation, abstaining from drugs and other touchy things. Most all of my unemployed friends post-graduation, those C’s get degrees kids, those who just couldn’t find an internship, that’s where they ended up, working for Booz Allen Hamilton or CACI or SRC.

Vitamin_Sushi 1y ago

n=1, but I graduated with a not so hot GPA so going into the market just before covid wasn't fun. Ended up doing "contracting" (still had a W2) with a really nice agency to get my foot in the proverbial door and eventually started working full-time as a software engineer, albeit in more of a support role. Working as a contractor wasn't too glamorous though (I could definitely say the same about the pay) as it was mostly writing and running automated test, but figured I had to start somewhere. Is he going to start working FAANG making $300k? It'd be nice if he does, but it's best to keep expectations in check.