i just heard a podcast about it last week on 'the ancients' https://open.spotify.com/episode/3h431IBsszlEVcfUThij6B?si=9c16b0bd17544d4f https://open.spotify.co

i just heard a podcast about it last week on 'the ancients' https://open.spotify.com/episode/3h431IBsszlEVcfUThij6B?si=9c16b0bd17544d4f https://open.spotify.com/episode/3h431IBsszlEVcfUThij6B?si=9...