> The last thing we need is a formal framework of how to have organic discussions. this is no different from best practices for programming though. People take

> The last thing we need is a formal framework of how to have organic discussions. this is no different from best practices for programming though. People take a rule that generally works well, but a manager who doesn't understand it tries to enforce it blindly ("more unit tests!!") and it stops working computer engineering & social engineering share a lot of the same failure modes (which is good news, if you are very good at debugging computers, but find people & politics confusing, you can unlock the latter once you see in what ways your insight in one domain can transfer to the other)