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Oh great, where can I buy a non-Mac with the same performance, battery life, thermals, weight, premium materials, and a trackpad that doesn’t feel like styrofoa

Oh great, where can I buy a non-Mac with the same performance, battery life, thermals, weight, premium materials, and a trackpad that doesn’t feel like styrofoam coated in oil? Since you say the competition has caught up, I assume it’ll be easy to send an Amazon link to the evidence.

worthless-trash 1y ago
Not OP but that's the thing right, you've talked a lot about feels which means there will never be an answer that overcomes the emotion built in your head. I wonder what it would take to win you over, and i don't mean the rational you, which i'm sure you can justify, i mean the irrational 'i'm in love with the product' you.
- rogerrogerr 1y ago
  It’d take these very objective things: - 7+ hour battery life while running a bunch of Docker containers and IDEs, at the same screen brightness nits I run my MacBook at. - Those things run not-perceptively-slower than on my Apple hardware - No perceptible fan noise while doing the above - The chassis does not creak when I pick it up from one corner - Does not weigh more than double my MacBook I’ll even relax the trackpad requirement and allow a 60Hz HiDPI screen instead of the 120Hz screen my MacBook from four years ago drives while doing all of the above. Is there anything that can check those boxes?
  - worthless-trash 1y ago
    This is a much more definable list, no feels there. (I don't know.. as am not hunting for a similar option, although I probably will be in the future). > - The chassis does not creak when I pick it up from one corner This would be an INSTANT 'nope' from me.
    - rogerrogerr 1y ago
      Every Fortune 500 company I’ve worked for (three so far) has sent me a Windows “dev machine” laptop with huge RAM and an i7-whatever processor… and they all creak if you pick them up from a corner. And the screen hinges all make weird sounds. It’s not, like, a usability concern, but it’s something I’m definitely willing to fork over a couple hundred bucks to not feel every day.
- tracerbulletx 1y ago
  "A lot" being in one of six items, specifically about an element that you touch and quality is generally judged by how it feels
izacus 1y ago
In the nearby store stocking latops, tablets and phones. Your ignorance is not reality and we're not here to feed you examples for you to move goalposts.
- rogerrogerr 1y ago
  _One_ example is too much to ask for? That's pretty telling. This entire thread has not one link to a competing product, just people insisting they exist.

worthless-trash 1y ago

Not OP but that's the thing right, you've talked a lot about feels which means there will never be an answer that overcomes the emotion built in your head. I wonder what it would take to win you over, and i don't mean the rational you, which i'm sure you can justify, i mean the irrational 'i'm in love with the product' you.

rogerrogerr 1y ago
It’d take these very objective things: - 7+ hour battery life while running a bunch of Docker containers and IDEs, at the same screen brightness nits I run my MacBook at. - Those things run not-perceptively-slower than on my Apple hardware - No perceptible fan noise while doing the above - The chassis does not creak when I pick it up from one corner - Does not weigh more than double my MacBook I’ll even relax the trackpad requirement and allow a 60Hz HiDPI screen instead of the 120Hz screen my MacBook from four years ago drives while doing all of the above. Is there anything that can check those boxes?
- worthless-trash 1y ago
  This is a much more definable list, no feels there. (I don't know.. as am not hunting for a similar option, although I probably will be in the future). > - The chassis does not creak when I pick it up from one corner This would be an INSTANT 'nope' from me.
  - rogerrogerr 1y ago
    Every Fortune 500 company I’ve worked for (three so far) has sent me a Windows “dev machine” laptop with huge RAM and an i7-whatever processor… and they all creak if you pick them up from a corner. And the screen hinges all make weird sounds. It’s not, like, a usability concern, but it’s something I’m definitely willing to fork over a couple hundred bucks to not feel every day.
tracerbulletx 1y ago
"A lot" being in one of six items, specifically about an element that you touch and quality is generally judged by how it feels

izacus 1y ago

In the nearby store stocking latops, tablets and phones. Your ignorance is not reality and we're not here to feed you examples for you to move goalposts.

rogerrogerr 1y ago
_One_ example is too much to ask for? That's pretty telling. This entire thread has not one link to a competing product, just people insisting they exist.