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My nihilism is exacerbated by the people who are actively making the problem worse and viciously attacking anyone who criticizes the problem or proposes solutio

My nihilism is exacerbated by the people who are actively making the problem worse and viciously attacking anyone who criticizes the problem or proposes solutions. IMO some activists are exploiting homeless people and drug addicts for power and profit.

esseph 1y ago
I think your last sentence is full of shit, and I'm not even saying it's wrong. What I am saying is that even if "activists" are doing... whatever, I kinda don't give a fuck? These are people. Human beings. The only shit people seem to give is to get them out of their sight and make them somebody else's problem.
- newsclues 1y ago
  You don't care that people exploit other humans beings for power and profit? https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-homeless-audit-spending-transparency-45a5aa98fc0d4ff88a08b8ad43b530a6 https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-homeless-audit-spendi... https://invisiblepeople.tv/unveiling-corruption-the-dark-reality-of-homeless-shelter-contracts/ https://invisiblepeople.tv/unveiling-corruption-the-dark-rea... You are right, the people being exploited are human beings, and rather than working to end the suffering, some people end up prolonging the suffering and creating more of it, because fixing problems ends the flow of funds and power. You aren't refuting what I am saying, you only seem to justify corruption and incompetence because the apparent intention is noble.
  - esseph 1y ago
    What I'm saying is whatever "activists" are doing or saying is often an excuse for others to continue to ignore the ugly problem. This is not limited to one locality. What I am interested in is long term support and funding for workable, humane solutions. These things require bipartisan support at the state and federal level (rooting out many of the causes and aiding homeless prevention), and I'm pretty sure that's fucking toast.
    - newsclues 1y ago
      What I am saying is is there is part of the activist movement (at the top) that is either incompetent or corrupt and have no interest in solving problems efficiently and often make them worse, because the incentives are not aligned. Problem solving would cut off revenue and salaries.
      - esseph 1y ago
        You're talking about a tiny group of people, inconsequential in the grand scheme. They are irrelevant distractions. Shipping people around the country sure as fuck isn't helping.
- badpun 1y ago
  A side note, but I don't think all homeless are helpable. Some just have some kind of self-destruction about them and are beyond helping, unless they really want to start living differently. I personally know one such guy - a combination of bad upbringing, big ego, a defiant character (that got him fired from every job) has set him on a path that ultimately made his own family kick him out to the streets.

esseph 1y ago

I think your last sentence is full of shit, and I'm not even saying it's wrong. What I am saying is that even if "activists" are doing... whatever, I kinda don't give a fuck? These are people. Human beings. The only shit people seem to give is to get them out of their sight and make them somebody else's problem.

newsclues 1y ago
You don't care that people exploit other humans beings for power and profit? https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-homeless-audit-spending-transparency-45a5aa98fc0d4ff88a08b8ad43b530a6 https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-homeless-audit-spendi... https://invisiblepeople.tv/unveiling-corruption-the-dark-reality-of-homeless-shelter-contracts/ https://invisiblepeople.tv/unveiling-corruption-the-dark-rea... You are right, the people being exploited are human beings, and rather than working to end the suffering, some people end up prolonging the suffering and creating more of it, because fixing problems ends the flow of funds and power. You aren't refuting what I am saying, you only seem to justify corruption and incompetence because the apparent intention is noble.
- esseph 1y ago
  What I'm saying is whatever "activists" are doing or saying is often an excuse for others to continue to ignore the ugly problem. This is not limited to one locality. What I am interested in is long term support and funding for workable, humane solutions. These things require bipartisan support at the state and federal level (rooting out many of the causes and aiding homeless prevention), and I'm pretty sure that's fucking toast.
  - newsclues 1y ago
    What I am saying is is there is part of the activist movement (at the top) that is either incompetent or corrupt and have no interest in solving problems efficiently and often make them worse, because the incentives are not aligned. Problem solving would cut off revenue and salaries.
    - esseph 1y ago
      You're talking about a tiny group of people, inconsequential in the grand scheme. They are irrelevant distractions. Shipping people around the country sure as fuck isn't helping.
badpun 1y ago
A side note, but I don't think all homeless are helpable. Some just have some kind of self-destruction about them and are beyond helping, unless they really want to start living differently. I personally know one such guy - a combination of bad upbringing, big ego, a defiant character (that got him fired from every job) has set him on a path that ultimately made his own family kick him out to the streets.