4 ms·

Who is the target market here? * Purely subjective opinion: It's ugly as hell. The front of vehicles isn't just for engines, it's also for aerodynamics. * It'

by geuis 1y ago

Who is the target market here? * Purely subjective opinion: It's ugly as hell. The front of vehicles isn't just for engines, it's also for aerodynamics. * It's crazy expensive. * The bed looks too short to be practically useful. * The wheels look comically small. * The ground clearance doesn't seem to make it useful for more than suburban and urban road environments.

deleted 1y ago
[deleted]
wpm 1y ago
> It's ugly as hell. So is a Ford Transit van? Who cares. This is a work truck. > The bed looks too short to be practically useful. The bed is 5 ft long. From TF website: "Same truck bed length as the Toyota Tacoma. Larger than a Rivian R1T." > The wheels look comically small. They look fine? How big should they be? > The ground clearance doesn't seem to make it useful for more than suburban and urban road environments. Oh, so they designed it for the environments it was...designed to be used in? And the same environments most macho big boy trucks spend 99% of their life in? What's the problem here? Honestly, what's your problem? Why is your comment so harshly negative? You can't fathom a target market for this because you don't seem to be in it?
bastawhiz 1y ago
I'm the target market. - I think it looks fine - I don't need a full sized bed for anything I'd be transporting - Tricked out it's a little over half the cost of an R1T Dual and $10K less than a comparable F150 Lightning upgraded to the long range battery - The wheels are small because it's a small truck. Big wheels would look ridiculous. - This isn't a truck for off roading or unmaintained dirt roads. What would I use this truck for? - towing a motorcycle trailer - Picking up stuff from Costco that won't fit in my trunk - Buying and transporting dirt, gravel, and stone for my yard - Going up to my cabin with my partner and two friends and having enough room to seat everyone and have room for all the luggage
- matthewfcarlson 1y ago
  Exactly. I love that it's small. I used to have a 4 door full length bed GMC and it felt like driving a boat. Seattle was particularly awful. My current garage is only 210 inches deep (5.334 m) so most trucks will not fit in my current house (very first world problems I know). But yes, smaller, lower cost, and does everything I need a truck for.
- SilverElfin 1y ago
  Isn’t a ford lightning much bigger and more capable?
  - bastawhiz 1y ago
    More capable how? It's more capable if it does more things that you want it to do, but in my case it doesn't add more utility. When you compare it based on range and power, it's still more expensive.
    - ParetoOptimal 1y ago
      Maybe it's more capable because driving small truck could make people think your genitalia is small? Not my personal opinion... but wonder how much of a factor this is :)
      - bastawhiz 1y ago
        The stereotype is that a big truck implies you're compensating. The only people who think an unimpressive vehicle means you have small bits are the people who think that an impressive vehicle means you have big bits.
- monkeyelite 1y ago
  I'm excited to hear your review after purchase.
  - bastawhiz 1y ago
toast0 1y ago
> * The bed looks too short to be practically useful. Have you looked at the mainstream 'small' truck market lately? Small in quotes, because actual small trucks disappeared, and we're left with mid sized trucks as the smallest. Used to be you could get a 6-ft bed standard and an optional longer bed on a small truck. Fuel efficiency standards now dictate you can't have that without a larger truck and worse fuel efficency.
ocdtrekkie 1y ago
I'm not willing to preorder an unproven brand, but I am excited about this. I'm a Toyota RAV4 owner, and I'd like something (much) more fuel efficient, or a fairly affordable EV, but I don't want to lose moderate hauling capacity for equipment, tools, parts for home, etc. I would seriously consider a very small/compact car but I do need to fit a car seat and I do occasionally move things. I hope this makes it to market because if I was buying a car today, and this was available today, I'd pick this.

by geuis 1y ago

deleted 1y ago

[deleted]

wpm 1y ago

> It's ugly as hell. So is a Ford Transit van? Who cares. This is a work truck. > The bed looks too short to be practically useful. The bed is 5 ft long. From TF website: "Same truck bed length as the Toyota Tacoma. Larger than a Rivian R1T." > The wheels look comically small. They look fine? How big should they be? > The ground clearance doesn't seem to make it useful for more than suburban and urban road environments. Oh, so they designed it for the environments it was...designed to be used in? And the same environments most macho big boy trucks spend 99% of their life in? What's the problem here? Honestly, what's your problem? Why is your comment so harshly negative? You can't fathom a target market for this because you don't seem to be in it?

bastawhiz 1y ago

I'm the target market. - I think it looks fine - I don't need a full sized bed for anything I'd be transporting - Tricked out it's a little over half the cost of an R1T Dual and $10K less than a comparable F150 Lightning upgraded to the long range battery - The wheels are small because it's a small truck. Big wheels would look ridiculous. - This isn't a truck for off roading or unmaintained dirt roads. What would I use this truck for? - towing a motorcycle trailer - Picking up stuff from Costco that won't fit in my trunk - Buying and transporting dirt, gravel, and stone for my yard - Going up to my cabin with my partner and two friends and having enough room to seat everyone and have room for all the luggage

matthewfcarlson 1y ago
Exactly. I love that it's small. I used to have a 4 door full length bed GMC and it felt like driving a boat. Seattle was particularly awful. My current garage is only 210 inches deep (5.334 m) so most trucks will not fit in my current house (very first world problems I know). But yes, smaller, lower cost, and does everything I need a truck for.
SilverElfin 1y ago
Isn’t a ford lightning much bigger and more capable?
- bastawhiz 1y ago
  More capable how? It's more capable if it does more things that you want it to do, but in my case it doesn't add more utility. When you compare it based on range and power, it's still more expensive.
  - ParetoOptimal 1y ago
    Maybe it's more capable because driving small truck could make people think your genitalia is small? Not my personal opinion... but wonder how much of a factor this is :)
    - bastawhiz 1y ago
      The stereotype is that a big truck implies you're compensating. The only people who think an unimpressive vehicle means you have small bits are the people who think that an impressive vehicle means you have big bits.
monkeyelite 1y ago
I'm excited to hear your review after purchase.
- bastawhiz 1y ago

toast0 1y ago

> * The bed looks too short to be practically useful. Have you looked at the mainstream 'small' truck market lately? Small in quotes, because actual small trucks disappeared, and we're left with mid sized trucks as the smallest. Used to be you could get a 6-ft bed standard and an optional longer bed on a small truck. Fuel efficiency standards now dictate you can't have that without a larger truck and worse fuel efficency.

ocdtrekkie 1y ago

I'm not willing to preorder an unproven brand, but I am excited about this. I'm a Toyota RAV4 owner, and I'd like something (much) more fuel efficient, or a fairly affordable EV, but I don't want to lose moderate hauling capacity for equipment, tools, parts for home, etc. I would seriously consider a very small/compact car but I do need to fit a car seat and I do occasionally move things. I hope this makes it to market because if I was buying a car today, and this was available today, I'd pick this.