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> At this time, there is no evidence indicating that an FBI laptop was compromised Yes, there is. It's on pastebin. They need to say why the evidence is fals

> At this time, there is no evidence indicating that an FBI laptop was compromised Yes, there is. It's on pastebin. They need to say why the evidence is false.

sigzero 14y ago
No, there isn't. The pastebin info "says" it was a compromised laptop. You or I have no idea if that is true or not.
- jasonwatkinspdx 14y ago
  Evidence is just stuff. It's not some magic object sprinkled with truth and certainty pixie dust. The connection between a given explanation and any evidence is a probabilistic inference (Bayes Rule actually). You always have to weigh the likelihood of the evidence occurring due to other reasons, be it accident or fraud. Considering that a number of folks with large UDID lists have stated they've found intersections, it seems the data itself is the real deal. The only thing that's left is to debate the likelyhood of how they got it. At the moment the burden is on the FBI. It'll take time to find the truth. Even if the FBI release was written in good faith, they're a large organization, and it takes time to figure out what's going on.
  - meric 14y ago
    Yes, also if someone leaks 1 million people's private data onto the internet I'd think it would be FBI's responsibility to investigate how that happened.
- ams6110 14y ago
  If it really is from a compromised FBI laptop, you can assume they nabbed more than just this one file. All they would need to do is release another file that would be much harder to deny as "evidence."
- genwin 14y ago
  Considering the FBI's anti-American history, they don't deserve the benefit of doubt.
tarice 14y ago
We currently only have it on AntiSec's word that the information came from an FBI laptop, so technically their statement is true. According to this blog, several organizations aggregate said information[1] so it's possible that one of them was hacked. I wouldn't expect AntiSec to frame the FBI, but then again they're not exactly buddy-buddy. [1]http://corte.si/posts/security/apple-udid-survey/index.html http://corte.si/posts/security/apple-udid-survey/index.html

> At this time, there is no evidence indicating that an FBI laptop was compromised Yes, there is. It's on pastebin. They need to say why the evidence is false.

sigzero 14y ago

No, there isn't. The pastebin info "says" it was a compromised laptop. You or I have no idea if that is true or not.

jasonwatkinspdx 14y ago
Evidence is just stuff. It's not some magic object sprinkled with truth and certainty pixie dust. The connection between a given explanation and any evidence is a probabilistic inference (Bayes Rule actually). You always have to weigh the likelihood of the evidence occurring due to other reasons, be it accident or fraud. Considering that a number of folks with large UDID lists have stated they've found intersections, it seems the data itself is the real deal. The only thing that's left is to debate the likelyhood of how they got it. At the moment the burden is on the FBI. It'll take time to find the truth. Even if the FBI release was written in good faith, they're a large organization, and it takes time to figure out what's going on.
- meric 14y ago
  Yes, also if someone leaks 1 million people's private data onto the internet I'd think it would be FBI's responsibility to investigate how that happened.
ams6110 14y ago
If it really is from a compromised FBI laptop, you can assume they nabbed more than just this one file. All they would need to do is release another file that would be much harder to deny as "evidence."
genwin 14y ago
Considering the FBI's anti-American history, they don't deserve the benefit of doubt.

tarice 14y ago

We currently only have it on AntiSec's word that the information came from an FBI laptop, so technically their statement is true. According to this blog, several organizations aggregate said information[1] so it's possible that one of them was hacked. I wouldn't expect AntiSec to frame the FBI, but then again they're not exactly buddy-buddy. [1]http://corte.si/posts/security/apple-udid-survey/index.html http://corte.si/posts/security/apple-udid-survey/index.html