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Women have such different lives. It's things like this that make it so painfully obvious why single men are isolated and alone in modern society.

micromacrofoot 1y ago
on the other hand I've yet to meet a woman that punches holes in drywall when they're mad, I've had 2 male roommates that have
- ramesh31 1y ago
  >on the other hand I've yet to meet a woman that punches holes in drywall when they're mad, I've had 2 male roommates that have This is basically my point. Adult women can live together, adult men cannot.
  - sfilmeyer 1y ago
    I'm a man, and had wonderful experiences with my many (mostly male) roommates, with only occasional hiccups. Saying adult men cannot live together seems pretty excessive.
    - micromacrofoot 1y ago
      they can but it's inherently riskier, especially with a woman involved
  - mock-possum 1y ago
    You are basically dead wrong about adult men not being able to live together. I don’t know where you’re getting your information from, but I am an adult man who has lived most of his adult life with other adult men, and I have fucking loved it. I spent my 20s living with two of my best male friends and those were some of the best years of my life! Plus, I know you probably don’t mean it this way, but - your phrasing basically invalidates every same-sex partnership. Again, here I have spent the last ten years living with my partner, and we are both of us adult men. Clearly adult men can live together. I think that maybe you just need to meet better men - your beliefs about gender stink.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  Bad male behavior is generally a bit more threatening and unpleasant to be around. But, I’ve also lived with good male friends, and with male strangers that ended up being great. I mean, we didn’t twerk together. But it was fun to have a guy to plop down on the couch and watch play videogames, talk about Romans with, or whatever other male-coded quirkiness you want to pull up. We often say “normalize <whatever>” to the point where it has become a bit of a trite phrase. But, there’s a lot of social pressure for men to be isolated. We should normalize living with your bros. It shouldn’t just be the wall-punchers that live together. (I mean, it isn’t).
mock-possum 1y ago
Could you expand on that a bit? You’re the second comment to say this is about ‘women’ and I don’t get it - what’s different? Whatever you think is ‘painfully obvious’ here is obviously not landing for me, can you spell it out?
- derektank 1y ago
  >I missed coming home to postgame my bad dates with my roommates over a cup of tea. For whatever reason, I think men are a lot less likely to engage in this kind of social behavior, even if they are roommates. They're also a lot less likely to engage in spontaneous dance parties or enjoy group hip hop twerking exercises. Basically, a lot of the benefits of having roommates that the author describes are experienced far less often by men with roommates
  - ramesh31 1y ago
    Pretty much. And I'm not even remotely saying it's a good thing. This is one of a myriad reasons men objectively live shorter, less healthy, and lonelier lives. You can speculate a million more reasons as to why, but it's just the reality of life.
    - mock-possum 1y ago
      Man it’s so awkward for me to hear about this stuff, when this hasn’t been my experience as a man at all. I’ve always been a primarily homosocial guy, and I’ve never felt like I was lacking any of this stuff. Whether it’s someone to play videogames with, someone to cook dinner for, someone to cuddle with, someone to rant to, someone to debate or deliberate or just discuss - I’ve always had male friends close to me who care about me, who listen to me, and for whom I try my best to return the favour, when it comes around. As a matter of fact I haven’t found my female friends to be any better at any of that than my male friends - and a couple of my best friends in particular are women. Maybe I’m just lucky? Maybe other men are just doing it wrong? I really do find the more I’ve grown up, the less I have any use or respect for all this traditional gender stuff. Why are we still pretending it’s valid? Why don’t we just grow out of it already?
kenferry 1y ago
The communal house scene in San Francisco isn't predominantly women.

micromacrofoot 1y ago

on the other hand I've yet to meet a woman that punches holes in drywall when they're mad, I've had 2 male roommates that have

ramesh31 1y ago
>on the other hand I've yet to meet a woman that punches holes in drywall when they're mad, I've had 2 male roommates that have This is basically my point. Adult women can live together, adult men cannot.
- sfilmeyer 1y ago
  I'm a man, and had wonderful experiences with my many (mostly male) roommates, with only occasional hiccups. Saying adult men cannot live together seems pretty excessive.
  - micromacrofoot 1y ago
    they can but it's inherently riskier, especially with a woman involved
- mock-possum 1y ago
  You are basically dead wrong about adult men not being able to live together. I don’t know where you’re getting your information from, but I am an adult man who has lived most of his adult life with other adult men, and I have fucking loved it. I spent my 20s living with two of my best male friends and those were some of the best years of my life! Plus, I know you probably don’t mean it this way, but - your phrasing basically invalidates every same-sex partnership. Again, here I have spent the last ten years living with my partner, and we are both of us adult men. Clearly adult men can live together. I think that maybe you just need to meet better men - your beliefs about gender stink.
bee_rider 1y ago
Bad male behavior is generally a bit more threatening and unpleasant to be around. But, I’ve also lived with good male friends, and with male strangers that ended up being great. I mean, we didn’t twerk together. But it was fun to have a guy to plop down on the couch and watch play videogames, talk about Romans with, or whatever other male-coded quirkiness you want to pull up. We often say “normalize <whatever>” to the point where it has become a bit of a trite phrase. But, there’s a lot of social pressure for men to be isolated. We should normalize living with your bros. It shouldn’t just be the wall-punchers that live together. (I mean, it isn’t).

mock-possum 1y ago

Could you expand on that a bit? You’re the second comment to say this is about ‘women’ and I don’t get it - what’s different? Whatever you think is ‘painfully obvious’ here is obviously not landing for me, can you spell it out?

derektank 1y ago
>I missed coming home to postgame my bad dates with my roommates over a cup of tea. For whatever reason, I think men are a lot less likely to engage in this kind of social behavior, even if they are roommates. They're also a lot less likely to engage in spontaneous dance parties or enjoy group hip hop twerking exercises. Basically, a lot of the benefits of having roommates that the author describes are experienced far less often by men with roommates
- ramesh31 1y ago
  Pretty much. And I'm not even remotely saying it's a good thing. This is one of a myriad reasons men objectively live shorter, less healthy, and lonelier lives. You can speculate a million more reasons as to why, but it's just the reality of life.
  - mock-possum 1y ago
    Man it’s so awkward for me to hear about this stuff, when this hasn’t been my experience as a man at all. I’ve always been a primarily homosocial guy, and I’ve never felt like I was lacking any of this stuff. Whether it’s someone to play videogames with, someone to cook dinner for, someone to cuddle with, someone to rant to, someone to debate or deliberate or just discuss - I’ve always had male friends close to me who care about me, who listen to me, and for whom I try my best to return the favour, when it comes around. As a matter of fact I haven’t found my female friends to be any better at any of that than my male friends - and a couple of my best friends in particular are women. Maybe I’m just lucky? Maybe other men are just doing it wrong? I really do find the more I’ve grown up, the less I have any use or respect for all this traditional gender stuff. Why are we still pretending it’s valid? Why don’t we just grow out of it already?

kenferry 1y ago

The communal house scene in San Francisco isn't predominantly women.